I used to use linux back in the day to piss everyone off that wanted to use my pc. now its just a ****ing job...........
On Thursday 12 December 2002 01:12 pm, Meliton wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: > > On December 12, 2002 01:02 am, Meliton wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > Open minds, perhaps. But in my opinion the driving force behind the > > > amazing support one gets on Linux is fundamentally egoistic: it feels > > > good to help someone out, specially when they ask nicely. It also > > > implies a touch of vanity, not as in posing, rather an intimate thing, > > > the satisfaction of knowing oneself useful. > > > > > > Don't get me wrong on egoism, I'm all in favour. It's the only natural > > > thing, we all act in our own interests. Volunteers who go off to poor > > > countries to help people are just being egoistic, in my view, and that > > > doesn't make them bad people. > > > > > > Lets all keep at it, this egoism thing rocks. > > > > > > Meliton. > > > > [rant alert] > > Subjective observations. > > > > Caveat: > > > > Since I know myself so well and have analyzed who and what I am to an > > absurd degree; nearly any question I pose here is rhetorical, _for me._ > > The answers are readily apparent from my perspective. You'll have to > > answer any you may find intriguing for yourself. > > > > I do as much as I can to help others with installing, and using, Open > > Source Software, simply because I feel an obligation. To myself. I've > > received help from "the community" since I became curious about > > GNU/Linux, that curiosity was often partially satisfied by answers from > > people on mailing lists and help forum web sites. Even the RTFM/STFW > > style answer usually told me something I needed to know. However those > > answers never quite felt sufficient since, due to personal time > > constraints, or other factors, others may not have been able to sort > > through thousands of pages of manuals or web 'how-to pages'; or may just > > require a more finely directed as to *what* to read. Taking the arrogance > > out of the elitist style answers above comes closer to meeting my self > > imposed obligation to try to share knowledge. > > > > Does this fit your mold of egoism and it's resultant behaviors? > > Yes it does. > > > Or is egoism > > as an answer appearing as to flip, to simplistic to fit the record? > > "Egoism" is just a word, I use it a lot because it shocks some people > into not lying to themselves. Too few people. And I do believe that we > all act strictly according to our interests, though not as rational > beings (which we are NOT). Those interests may be (often are) hidden > from us, and we often act in ways that harm us (drugs...) or seem > altruistic (sharing your knowledge of Linux ;). But absolutely every act > of every human being in History, including all the moving ones of > self-sacrifice, are for the actor's benefit. I'm not being cynical here. > > > Installations aren't always permanent among a few of the friends and > > acquaintances that I've helped. Repetitious yes. Permanent....? > > > > The reasons are myriad, but the underlying theme nearly always has been > > in the form of; "but I didn't have to know how Windows does this. It's > > too hard." My answer is almost always; > > "Does any release of Windows allow secure multi-user/multi-tasking > > computing _when it's running as a default installation_?" > > I think everyone here knows that answer. Other favorite answers; > > "If it's so hard how can I run without Windows?" > > "Which of the last 10 virii/trojans/worms affected your computer and/or > > did you have to re-install and have you lost data and time because of > > it?" These are very rare occurrences in Open Source Operating System > > environments simply because the developers don't expect that you stay > > ignorant as to what happens when you push that power on button. In fact > > they almost _demand_ that you _not_ remain uninformed. By default > > GNU/Linux seems to make the assumption that you're willing and able to > > learn at least a few basic facts. The longer the development process > > continues, and the more people that switch, the fewer the 'basics' that > > are required just to be a user. Windows developers, and the Microsoft > > Corporation, actually want you to stay 'stuck on stupid' for life. > > > > It's safer for them. Who benefits? > > > > In light of the above; and my sense of obligation to pass on the little > > I've learned, does it benefit *me,* primarily through feeling good about > > it, or is it self preservation to help to teach others to break this > > particular trap? > > Wether your primary reason is "feeling good about it" or "self > preservation", I'm not to know. But I'm glad to see that you agree with me. > > > This thing that was started to facilitate military communication (the > > internet) has been deeded to us all for our use. Does it not seem > > therefore that we all have an obligation to learn to use it safely and > > properly, and to protect the right to use it freely? > > > > Is it not a 'battlefield' for freedom? Of expression, ideas, _knowledge_? > > Information exchange without threat of censorship or repression? > > > > Do we not want to control our own lives and the ability to communicate as > > _we_ choose? > > > > Therefore my sense of obligation. What of your egoism now? > > Hello? > > > [\rant alert] > > > > Sorry about that, but it seems someone pushed one of my buttons. :-) > > Uh, yeah, sorry. I was brought up in Windows :) > > Meliton. -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15
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