On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 00:15, RichardA wrote: > I think that's a wild exaggeration. I surfed for years using Win98 and > never once had a problem. Admittedly I was cautious, and later started > using Eudora, Opera and ZoneAlarm, but I started out with IE, OE etc. > > Look at XP. It was released with a known vulnerabilty (UPNP), but many > people are probably unpatched and still surfing without having been hit. > > Richard
Exaggeration? Prime example. Yesterday, Monday, June 9, 2003 Fresh installation of XP Pro on customers workstation. Total time from start of installation to the last device drivers and system tweaking prior to getting onto the internet: 3hr. Customer does not have or want an antivirus program, nor any spyware/adware removers or monitors. Customer surfs around for about 30 minutes whilst I sit outside and smoke and have a few coffees. (Did Hotmail, dunno really where else she browsed, but that's no matter) Came back in, found a new toolbar on IE that wasn't there previously. Installed Spybot anyways, updated and disconnected. RAN Spybot in front of her. 11 spyware/adware backdoors and TWO toolbars (one didn't load for some reason). Let customer read through the Spybot information and the help. Loaded Spybot, Spysweeper, RAV Antivirus Desktop; updated all, cleaned up all remnants of "shit". Rebooted twice to make sure everything was hunkydory. I'll not make any further allusions to that comment about "wild exaggeration", Richard. Truth be told, you have absolutely no idea what is going on with a Windows machine when it's on the net. It's getting to be much worse than it was last year, or even last month for that matter. IF YOU'RE LUCKY, this doesn't necessarily happen to a Windows machine, but it is literally "CyberWar" right now - either with viruses and trojans, spyware, adware or Sub7's and BO's. We only have Microsoft to thank for that. -- Tue Jun 10 07:20:00 EST 2003 07:20:00 up 2 days, 17:11, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.09 ----------------------------------------------------------------- | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |================================| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ----------------------------------------------------------------- linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 ----------------------------------------------------------------- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.
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