On Tuesday 03 Feb 2004 1:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> CPU temperatures and cooling issues+ memory
> ===========================================
>
> I decided to start this thread again.
> The precious thread had become a bit rambling.
>
> Well,
>
> My cpu / heatsink and case temperatures are still
> regarded by the techies at AMD as withing tollerances.
> I am not happy with the conclusion though.
>
> These are:--
>
> Case temp 28C with CPU temp of 49/50C on normal desktop loads.
> Case temp 28/32C   CPU temp of 56.5 on 99% Loads (and siezure)
>
> I am not happy with these temps.
> I would like to see case temps of 28C constant
> and cpu temps of low 40's rising to middle/upper
> 40's under full load scenarios.
>
> I already have two 8cm case fans ,in at front, out at back.

Hi John,

I usually throw away the stock coolers and buy a decent one. However I 
do run my Linux standalone router (AMD Athlon 2000+) with its stock 
cooler and fan adapter so I can use a higher CFM 8cm fan. You could 
always use a 6cm->8cm adapter+ 8cm fan to increase the airflow over 
your heatsink. For an Athlon 1800+ which isn't overclocked you 
shouldn't really need a new heatsink. However AMD are taking out of 
their backside if they think that a patch is the way to bond a 
heatsink to a CPU!! Always use high grade heatsink compound (I always 
use Artic Silver - but thats just laziness :-). If you do want to 
spend lots of money Swiftech make very nice copper heatsinks :-)

This is unlikely to be the root cause of your problem. Athlon CPUs do 
run hot. So do P4's for that matter :-) My laptop (P4-M) has a 
cooling hystersis which switches in at 54C and off at 46C. I built up 
a Athlon 2500+ based PC for a friend. Even when its not overclocked 
and with a huge Coolermaster blower-type fan it still runs at 47C 
idle!!

Have you thought of a powersupply issue? The PSU will be under strain 
when your CPU is drawing a lot of current (mainly to heat your 
house). The PSU in another PC I built even tripped the MAIN circuit 
breaker in the flat :-) The powersupply became more and more unstable 
(PC just died occasionally). That powersupply was rated at 400W so 
think QUALITY not POWER!! Antec, Q-Tec, Thermaltake, etc. are good.

Make sure your RAM is branded: Crucial, PNY, Kingston, Samsung, 
Panasonic, Corsair, etc. In the first PC I built I used generic 
DDRAM. I had to replace one the modules within a year because it had 
died :-( Its hard to tell with yours - like you say it may be 
outsourced Samsung production.

My advice would be to try getting hold/borrowing something like a 
cheap Q-Tec PSU and/or a crucial DDRAM (PC2100) stick to test what is 
actually wrong. Then replace these parts (one at a time). Linux has 
kernel support for avoiding dodgy areas of RAM but  I would rather 
have RAM that works :-)

Hope that helps.

Robert


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