On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 05:39:32 -0500
mdk n00b disseminated the following:

> looks like if i still everything but devel i should be ok ?  

Easiest way to install XFCE4 is through Charles' site:

http://www.eslrahc.com/

Just add his repository as a source, then:

urpmi xfce4
 
> how would i switch from Gnome to xfce4 and from xfce4 back to Gnome by
> only using startx ? 

Two ways to do this. IIRC, you can start XFCE from a text login with
'startxfce4', but you can also start it with 'startx' if you have an ~/.xinitrc
like so:

xfce-mcs-manager
xfwm4 --daemon
xftaskbar4 &
xfdesktop &
exec xfce4-panel
#exec gnome-session

Notice that the last line is commented out, that way if you want to go back to
Gnome, you just reverse the comments. As always, there are even more ways to do
this, like create scripts for each WM/DE you use in ~/bin, then have an
~/xinitrc like so:

exec ~/bin/xfce4
#exec ~/bin/gnome
#exec ~/bin/pekwm

Then 'startx' will load whatever is *not* commented out.

More about this on Todd Slater's site:

http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/

> i dont want to use a display manager to login. 

Good for you! The best way to go, IMNSHO.

> and i'm not entirely sure i will stay with xfce.

I'm bettin' you will. It has all the 'cool shit' you want, much more
customizable, and very light on resources. You will *not* regret it. 'Sides, any
'problems' you have, there are several XFCE users on here who would be more than
happy to help out.

> also, can i run Gnome Terminal from xfce ? this might come off as odd but i
> happen to like that terminal alot. 

You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be
the same as your KDE or Gnome menus, and of course you can add launchers to the
panel for whatever apps you use the most.

-- 
JoeHill
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