Hi Tom,
Its me again with the same problem but now in Air.
Ive tried installing the same files I got it working with in MAndrake 6.5
and it doesnt work in 7. After hunting around I found some info with later
files to try out. I cant get them working.
I am confused with what files Ive got and what ones should be used and even
then, the commands to use to install the XFCom.
what stages need to be done? like:
install the XFCom file
build the kernel
then install the kernel
The files I now have are:
XFCom-i810-glibc2.1.0.0-rh60.rpm
XFCom-i810-glibc2.1.0.0-rh61.rpm
How do I "install" is it "rpm -i" or "rpm -Uvh"???
When I go into Kpackage it says it is installed. Well they both are now and
I cant uninstall one or the other as I get an error message saying it
contains mulitple files.
Then the other files Ive got:
I810Gtt-0.1-rh60.i386.rpm
I810Gtt-0.1-rh61.i386.rpm
and
I810Gtt-0.1-4.src.rpm
I810Gtt-0.1-5.src.rpm
I dont know which one of these to use. My guess was that I can install with
the I810Gtt-0.1-rh* or build and compile using the I810Gtt-0.1-4 or 5*.
Either one should work? They dont.
when I run the I810Gtt-0.1-rh* ones sure, they show up in the kpackage as
installed but no references or files seem to go anywhere. I now also have
both of them (60+61 in the kpackage aswell)
When I try either of the bottom files I get a horrible error script message
that Ive pasted below.
when I search for XFCom, its no where to be found.
Antoher issue I think may be contributing is the XF86_SVGA server. It wasnt
installed during installation even when I chose recommended install. I
think I got it installed ok eventually, it shows in the same dir as the
VGA16 now. I guess I still get confused with the links. there are 4
different link options to run and I dont know which of these I need. They
are:
cd/ etc/X11
ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 X
ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 /etc/X11/X
ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 /usr/X11R6/bin/X
which ones do I do?
and where does the SVGA server get used, the only reference to that is
during xf86config choosing the SVGA not SGA16. Im not sure if any of the
above link settings need to refer to the SVGA as when I looked into one of
the links it was refering to VGA16.
Version 7 I got as it said it "supports i810. "BUT" it is not an option as
you still need the kernel or something similar to that. Also in the earlier
i810 setup support with md6.5 that I got working thanks to your help, it
says "After you have successfully installed the vga16 server (which I
have[even though Im getting only 1 horrible resolution]) you can upgrade
your install with the XFCom X Server which will support high resolutions
then further into the complete install of xfree it says "You can find the
correctly compiled XF86_SVGA server with i810 support..."
I am so confused. I sure would appreciate any help
regards
Gina
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas J. Kwasnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2000 08:43: pm
Subject: Re: [newbie] X configure help PLEASE
> My pleasure, and yes i would like to know your progress
>
> Gina wrote:
> >
> > Thank you so much Tom!
> > you know what I'll be doing tonight :)
> > I'll let you know how I go with it.
> >
> > regards
> > Gina
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Kwasnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Gina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2000 05:07: pm
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] X configure help PLEASE
> >
> > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, in fact, i'll do one better than that, in my reply here, i'll
give
> > you
> > > the release notes that *I* found on the i810 video chipset....I also
have
> > > mandrake 6.5, and have had my ups and downs in the hardware area as
far
> > as
> > > setup, so if i can be at all helpful, by all means let me
know.....here is
> > the
> > > release :
> > >
> > > (please bear in mind that all this may NOT necessarily be applicable
to
> > > you....i doubt you'll need kernel re-configuration)
> > >
> > > This document is provided by Intel as a service for its customers
only.
> > THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITH NO WARRANTIES WHATSOEVER,
INCLUDING
> > ANY
> > > WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, NON-INFRINGEMENT FITNESS FOR ANY
PARTICULAR
> > PURPOSE, OR ANY WARRANTY OTHERWISE ARISING OUT OF ANY
> > > PROPOSAL, SPECIFICATION OR SAMPLE. Intel disclaims all liability,
> > including liability for infringement of any proprietary rights, relating
to
> > use of information in this document. No license,
> > > express or implied, by estoppel or otherwise, to any intellectual
property
> > rights are granted herein.
> > >
> > > This document details how to get Linux* up and running on either an
Intel®
> > 810 or an Intel® 810E chipset-based motherboard. This document was
written
> > using RedHat* 6.0 as a reference
> > > platform; some details may not be valid on other distributions or
> > versions.
> > >
> > > Table of Contents
> > >
> > > Requirements
> > > Features
> > > Installing a new system
> > > Kernel Setup
> > > X Server Installation
> > > Compiling X from source
> > > References
> > > Known Issues
> > > Revision History
> > >
> > > Requirements:
> > >
> > > XFree86 3.3.5
> > > Kernel version 2.2.X
> > > glibc 2.1
> > > gcc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Features:
> > >
> > > XFree86 3.3.5 compatible
> > > Support for up to 1600x1200 resolutions
> > > Hardware cursor support
> > > Acceleration for 8,16 and 24 bit depths
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Installing a new system:
> > > If you are installing a Linux* distribution on a new system there are
a
> > few things you should know to help with the install. Distributions that
are
> > using XFree86 3.3.5 or earlier do not have built-in
> > > support for the Intel® 810 Chipset family. You will have to install
the
> > 'vga16' X server, then after your system has been loaded you need to get
and
> > install the accelerated X server. Also, there
> > > may be an issue with the distribution not recognizing all of the
memory in
> > your system. This should not cause a problem with the installation and
can
> > be fixed after the install is done as is detailed
> > > below. When doing your install, be sure that you include the gcc
compiler.
> > It is needed to compile the agpgart module. All other aspects of the
install
> > should proceed as expected.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kernel setup:
> > >
> > > 1.Check your Memory. Linux* kernel 2.2.X has a problem recognizing
all
> > the memory on some Intel® 810 and Intel® 810E chipset-based systems.
This
> > will make the system seem very
> > > slow, or just not as fast as it could be. To check your system,
run
> > this command at a command prompt.
> > >
> > > cat /proc/meminfo
> > >
> > >
> > > Look for a line that says:
> > >
> > > MemTotal: XXXXX kb
> > >
> > >
> > > If this number is not close to the amount of RAM in your system,
you
> > will have to tell the kernel how much RAM you have. Note that this
should be
> > about 1-2 MB less than your actual
> > > system memory. This is because the graphics chip uses system RAM
for
> > its 1MB frame-buffer.
> > >
> > > 2.Specify an amount of RAM. For the kernel to know how much RAM you
> > have available for use you will need to supply a boot parameter to LILO,
> > either at the boot prompt or in the
> > > configuration file. At the LILO prompt, enter the name of the
kernel
> > you want (Usually 'linux' unless you changed it) followed by mem=##M.
The ##
> > is the amount of memory you have in
> > > megabytes. REMEMBER to subtract 1 MB for the part taken by the
> > graphics chip; otherwise your kernel will die during boot-up. If it
still
> > dies, subtract another 1MB; this could be taken
> > > by vendor specific BIOS needs. If your distribution has a
graphical
> > boot screen, boot parameters may not be possible. You may still be able
to
> > edit the lilo.conf as is detailed below.
> > >
> > > LILO: linux mem=63M
> > >
> > >
> > > After you know this works you should add it to LILO permanently
by
> > editing the lilo.conf file. This file is usually located at
/etc/lilo.conf.
> > After the line 'label=linux' (Or whatever you
> > > called your kernel) add a line like:
> > >
> > > append="mem=63M"
> > >
> > >
> > > Change the 63M above to be the amount of RAM you have - 1M. Save
this
> > file and as root reinstall LILO by running:
> > >
> > > /sbin/lilo
> > >
> > >
> > > This should reinstall your boot loader and you will automatically
> > tell the kernel how much RAM you have on your next reboot. If you are
> > currently running with the correct amount of RAM
> > > you do not need to reboot. If at a future date, you change the
amount
> > of RAM in your system you will need to repeat the above procedure.
> > >
> > > If you are loading your kernel without using LILO consult the
> > loader's documentation for how to supply 'kernel parameters' when
booting
> > the kernel. Add the 'mem=##M' parameter in
> > > that fashion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > X Server Installation:
> > >
> > > 1.Find your XFree86 version. To determine what version of X your
> > distribution has installed you can run:
> > >
> > > X -version
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2.Install XFree86 3.3.5. If you do not have it already, you will
need
> > to download and install XFree86 version 3.3.5. If your distribution came
> > with a version of XFree86 earlier than 3.3.5
> > > your should check to see if an upgrade is available from your
distrib
> > ution's web site. If your distribution does not have an upgrade
available
> > you can download it directly from the
> > > XFree86.org web site.
> > > When installing XFree86 you should use the vga16 server. The
maximum
> > resolution with this "compatibility" server will be 640x480x16. After
you
> > have successfully installed the vga16
> > > server you can upgrade your install with the XFCom-I810 X server
> > which will support high resolution modes.
> > >
> > > 3.Download XFCom-I810 and agpgart. Download the XFree86 3.3.5
> > accelerated X server for the Intel® 810 Chipset (XFCom-i810) from
> > support.intel.com. This is available in either
> > > RPM or tar formats; choose the one your distribution supports.
> > > You will also need to download the agpgart.o source. This is
> > available in either a source RPM or a tar format; choose the one you
> > distribution supports.
> > >
> > >
> > > 4.Install XFCom-I810. You will need to be root to do this.
> > > RPM:
> > >
> > > cd /path_to_downloaded_rpms
> > > rpm -Uvh XFCom-i810*.i386.rpm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TAR:
> > >
> > > cd /path_to_downloaded_tars
> > > mkdir temp_XFCom
> > > cd temp_XFCom
> > > tar -zxpvf ../XFCom-i810*.tar.gz
> > > ./INSTALL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5.Compile and install the kernel module. The kernel module must be
> > compiled before it can be installed. This module will need to be
recompiled
> > and reinstalled if you upgrade your kernel
> > > at a later date, so keep the source in a safe place.
> > > RPM:
> > >
> > > cd /path_to_downloaded_rpms
> > > rpm --rebuild I810Gtt*.src.rpm
> > > # Look for the output near the bottom that says where the
rpm
> > > # was built. Use that rpm name in the next command if you
are
> > > # not on a RedHat system.
> > > rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/I810Gtt*.i386.rpm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TAR:
> > >
> > > cd /path_to_downloaded_tars
> > > mkdir temp_i810
> > > cd temp_i810
> > > tar -zxpvf ../I810Gtt*.src.tar.gz
> > > make
> > > make install
> > > # You may remove the temp_i810 and its contents if you
wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 6.Edit the XF86Config file. Setup your XF86Config file. Use your
> > favorite text editor to edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config. You will need
to
> > be root to do this. You may want to do a 'man
> > > XF86Config' on your Linux box first to understand this file.
> > >
> > > Monitor Section
> > > Each Mode that you would like to use must be defined in the
> > XF86Config file under the "Monitor" section. They are defined in one of
the
> > two following formats.
> > >
> > > Modeline "name" ...
> > >
> > > #or
> > >
> > > Mode
> > > ...
> > > EndMode
> > >
> > >
> > > These should be set up according to what your monitor can
support.
> > Most distributions do this during the install process. If your
distribution
> > does not include all the modes you would like
> > > to use, check the References section for information on creating
> > these.
> > >
> > > Device Section
> > > Add the following device section to your XF86Config file. There
> > should be other similar device sections already in the file. You can add
> > this to the file without changing other device
> > > sections.
> > >
> > > Section "Device"
> > > Identifier "i810"
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Screen Section
> > > Add this screen section, you should remove any other "svga"
screen
> > sections that may be in this file. Do not remove the vga16 screen
section,
> > as it would be useful if you should ever
> > > need to fall back to vga mode. You must edit the Monitor line to
> > reflect the Monitor you have. You can get this from another "Screen"
section
> > in this file, or from the "Monitor" section of
> > > the XF86Config file. Be careful not to specify modes that your
> > Monitor cannot support; you could damage the Monitor.
> > >
> > > Section "Screen"
> > > Driver "svga"
> > > Device "i810"
> > > Monitor "Your_Monitor_Here"
> > > Subsection "Display"
> > > Depth 8
> > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864"
> > "1280x1024" "1600x1200"
> > > ViewPort 0 0
> > > EndSubsection
> > > Subsection "Display"
> > > Depth 16
> > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864"
> > "1280x1024" "1600x1200"
> > > ViewPort 0 0
> > > EndSubsection
> > > Subsection "Display"
> > > Depth 24
> > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864"
> > "1280x1024"
> > > ViewPort 0 0
> > > EndSubsection
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > >
> > > Note: Edit the "Modes" lines to have only the resolutions you
want
> > for each Color depth. In this configuration your desktop will be as
large as
> > the largest supported mode in the line. Your
> > > viewable area is the only thing that changes giving you a 'zoom'
> > affect. If this is not what you want make sure the largest mode on each
line
> > is the mode you plan on using for your
> > > desktop, the other modes can be available in case you need a low
> > resolution mode for a game or application. You can also remove an entire
> > Subsection (Including the Subsection
> > > "Display" and "EndSubSection" lines) if you do not want to be
able to
> > use that color depth.
> > >
> > > 7.Set up the X server link. You will need to be root to do this.
Since
> > distributions set this up in differing manners, two methods have been
> > included below. If neither of these work, you will
> > > need to contact your distribution to get more complete setup
> > information.
> > >
> > > Case 1: /etc/X11/X exists.
> > >
> > > ls -l /etc/X11/X
> > > #If this does not exist use case 2.
> > > ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 /etc/X11/X
> > >
> > >
> > > Case 2: /usr/X11R6/bin/X exists AND points to your current X
> > server.
> > >
> > > ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X
> > > #If this does not exist and case 1 didn't exist,
contact
> > > #your distribution for assistance.
> > > ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 /usr/X11R6/bin/X
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 8.Start the X server. If you are already running X you will need to
> > exit and start again. If you are set up to start X automatically then
you
> > will want to restart it by doing a
> > > "CTRL-ALT-Backspace". If X is not running you should start it
with a
> > command like this:
> > >
> > > startx -- -bpp 16
> > >
> > >
> > > The "-bpp 16" tells the server to start in 16 bit depth. You
could
> > also use 8 or 24 bit depth.
> > > "CTRL-ALT-KeyPadPlus" and "CTRL-ALT-KeyPadMinus" will rotate
through
> > the resolutions available at the current color depth. For additional
> > documentation on XFree86 or the
> > > XF86Config file please visit the References.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Compiling X from Source:
> > >
> > > NOTE! This is for experienced Linux* users only. Provided below
are
> > only the details needed for patching and compiling the source;
additional
> > expertise is necessary to correctly install
> > > X on your system. If you already have XFree86 3.3.5 correctly
> > installed, compiling and installing the XFCom-i810 binary should not be
> > difficult.
> > >
> > > 1.Download the source for the X server from XFree86.org. You will
need
> > these files, do not untar them, simply put them in a temp directory.
(Note
> > that this is 40+ MB of source)
> > > X335src-1.tgz
> > > X335src-2.tgz
> > > X335src-3.tgz
> > >
> > >
> > > 2.Download the patch from support.intel.com. This file should be
called
> > XFCom-i810-3.3.5.patch.tar.gz
> > >
> > > 3.Patch and build the source. Untar the patch into the same
directory
> > you placed the X335* files in and run the build-i810.sh script.
> > >
> > > cd path to X335*
> > > tar -zxpvf XFCom-i810-3.3.5.patch.tar.gz
> > > ./build-i810.sh
> > >
> > >
> > > This will build the entire X tree by doing a 'make World'. You
can
> > find the correctly compiled XF86_SVGA server with i810 support located
in
> > the directory
> > > XFree3.3.5/xc/programs/Xserver/. This is the same binary shipped
as
> > XFCom-i810 in the binary only distributions. Provided you already have
> > XFree86 3.3.5 installed you should be able
> > > to use this binary by placing it in the correct location and
setting
> > up your links/XF86Config file as detailed above. If you do not have
XFree86
> > 3.3.5 installed you should see the References
> > > for help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > XFree86 FAQ http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ
> > > XFree86 3.3.5 configuration
http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.5/Config.html
> > > XFree86-HOWTO http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Know Issues:
> > >
> > > When using specific mode timings the last scan line of the
display
> > can become corrupted.
> > > Workaround: This is due to the HSyncStart value of the modeline.
You
> > can either use a different mode from your XF86Config file or adjust the
> > modeline that is bad. The XSyncStart value
> > > needs to be raised, xvidtune can be used to find the appropriate
> > timing. Note, if you do not know that your monitor can handle the
settings
> > do not change them. You could damage the
> > > monitor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Revision History
> > >
> > > 1.0.0 First revision, patched against XFree86 3.3.5. Full XAA
> > support. 8,16,24 bit accelerated modes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Until the next time,
> > >
> > > Tom Kwasnik
> > >
> > > > Thanks Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Ive got the Mandrake 6.5 release.
> > > > Can you please give me the url to this site where intel has this
info?
> > > > I origionally emailed Jetway who gave me an intel site and Ive
looked
> > thru
> > > > it and not found anything that helps me. I may be looking in the
wrong
> > > > place.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for helping me. I consider myself to be quite clued up on
> > windows,
> > > > but I feel so dumb trying to figure this linux out. Hell, this is
just
> > the
> > > > start, Ive still got to configure my sound and internet connections
> > after.
> > > > Im not going to give up though. All this hunting around trying to
find
> > > > answers is helping me learn more as I go.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Gina
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tom Kwasnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Gina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2000 02:02: pm
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] X configure help PLEASE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > > > > Hi Gina,
> > > > > what is your distribution (Mandrake, RedHat, Caldera, etc....)?
And
> > > > > did you read the release notes published online there by Intel??
they
> > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > have gotten quite comprehensive in their description of how to set
up
> > the
> > > > i810
> > > > > chipset for use with linux...let me know if you still need
assistance
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, >
> > > > > > I know there are are already previous posts regarding this
problem
> > but I
> > > > > > have tried everything Ive read so far and still Im at a loss and
> > would
> > > > > > appreciate someone helping me out if they know what should be
> > selected
> > > > for
> > > > > > my particular video card. Its easy to say "go setup through x
> > > > configure"
> > > > > > but when I do that I always get a screen that only shows the top
> > right
> > > > of
> > > > > > the screen with a horrible low colour depth, all dotted, and the
> > rest
> > > > goes
> > > > > > off the monitor and I cant scroll or do anything. I have
managed to
> > get
> > > > to
> > > > > > a slightly smaller text mentioned below but this also has a
horrible
> > low
> > > > > > colour depth and isnt a better resolution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My computer details:
> > > > > > Jetway 910af motherboard
> > > > > > pentium III 500, 64Mg RAM
> > > > > > intel 82810 and 82C810AB and 82C802AB chipset
> > > > > > (Intel (R) 810 Chipset Graphics Driver PV1.1)
> > > > > > Intel GMCH built-in On board high performance AGP VGA
> > > > > > (Memory being resizable using just what is needed depending on
what
> > is
> > > > > > running.)
> > > > > > Integrated hig performance & high quality 2D/3D engine
> > > > > > Integrated programmable 24bit true-colour RAMDAC upto 230Mhz
pixel
> > > > clock.
> > > > > > Panasonic E70 17" monitor (TX-T7F22)
> > > > > > Horizontal specs - 30-70
> > > > > > vertical specs - 50-180
> > > > > > VGA, SVGA, VESA compatible
> > > > > > max res - 1280x1024 - 60 Hz
> > > > > > Max pixel clock - 108 mHz
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The best I can get from running x config is using these
settings:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > choose a card - unsupported compatible VGA
> > > > > > pick a server - SVGA
> > > > > > monitor setup - custom
> > > > > > H range - non interlaced SVGA 1024x768 @60, 800x600@...
> > > > > > Video memory - 1MB
> > > > > > 40-150
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I select multiple screen resolutions and when I go into linux
the
> > ctrl
> > > > alt +
> > > > > > doesnt work either.
> > > > > > I still get the horrible low colour depth and 640 like
resolution
> > but
> > > > its a
> > > > > > little smaller enabling more to fit on the screen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ive read through email lists, faqs, support, and I see many
others
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > same problem and not getting anywhere as all they get back is
"use
> > the
> > > > > > xconfig..." I have tried it so many times Im starting to get
rather
> > > > > > frustrated with this and would really appreciate someone helping
me
> > out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do have a patch from Intel and a driver for intel. But Im
not
> > > > familiar
> > > > > > with linux (yet!) and dont even know how to run either of them!
> > dumb
> > > > huh!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gina
