it's not what you said, it's how you said it.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rial Juan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????


>
> Just 2 things:
>
> a) The only point I'm trying to get accross is to try and help yourself
before
>    asking others to solve your problems for you. That means: read the
>    manual. It's written on purpose, you know?
>
> b) Read the original post on which mine was a reply. If he calls us dumb
because
>    we didn't answer his questions, is it then so bad when I say he makes a
>    pretty stupid remark by saying noone wants to help?
>
> For some reason whenever I open my mouth to correct someone, everybody
starts
> flaming me. What the heck is wrong with telling people to try and solve
their
> own problems before they ask for help? What the heck is wrong with stating
that
> administrating linux is _NOT_ for people with no technical background
> whatsoever?
>
> But then again, for some reason my opinion is not the most popular in
> teletubbie-land, so I get all the flames and insults. When I help somebody
out
> on the list or in private, nobody seems to notice, but when I tell someone
to
> read the manual before asking for help, or to use to-the-point subject
lines
> instead of "HELP", or to stop flooding the list with complete offtopic BS,
I'm
> the great nazi-enemy. Well, good. I'll be your nazi-enemy for you to step
on.
> Hope it makes you all feel so much wiser and tougher.
>
>
> On Mar 14 bluebottle wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> >
> > > Mr. Rial Juan,
> > >
> > > I can only say that thank God I entered the world of linux before you
started
> > > spewing forth your rhetoric otherwise I would never have become as
excited about the
> > > challenges of learning linux.  It's a shame that you have forgotten
the help and
> > > assistance you no doubt received when you first started.
> > >
> > > To the original poster, please accept our appologies as this is in no
way an example
> > > of the fine help you'll usually find here.  If you're unwilling to
post again
> > > please, feel free to contact me privately and I'll do the best I can
(I'm no expert
> > > but I manage).
> > >
> > > Mr. Rial Juan, welcome to my trash filter.
> >
> > > Joseph S. Gardner
> >
> > Well said, Joseph. If linux is going to reach the wider market we don't
need
> > people like him pontificating to someone who is just starting. Some of
us, me
> > included, will never be experts but we can still achieve a lot with the
system.
> > It's also very nice to repay the help received when we first started.
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Rial Juan                        <http://nighty.ulyssis.org>
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> ulyssis system admininstrator       <http://www.ulyssis.org>
>
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> That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...
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