Right now X is taking up 14% of my 256 MB of RAM, or around 36 MB of RAM.
> heh heh... well try as it might linux will not discourage me, I've actually
> been trying to get various versions to work correctly since last July!
> Mandrake 7.0 is the first one that even comes close to working out for me.
> I had to wait for them to get some kind of work around for UDMA 66 in the
> install, since I'm not too familiar with linux and don't know how to do it
> myself. Thanks for the info on how it *should* run, it helps to have
> something to compare against so you know when you have everything running up
> to par. Just a quick question, how much RAM does X use when you are in
> linux? For me its like 39megs, and that seems awfully high since people are
> out there running this on 486's. It may be one of those take what you can
> get things, and thats why I'm wondering what is used on your system with
> 192.
>
> Thanks,
> Charles Ulwelling
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Holt
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 2:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux is so slow... Please help
>
>
> I'm dual booting an AMD K6/3 450 (actually booting Win98, NT 4, Mandrake
> linux,
> and BeOS 4.5- whew!) I have 192 MB RAM and a mix of both UDMA 33 & UDMA 66
> hard disks. My Linux system runs just as smooth as Windows. I know that
> doesn't answer why you're having problems, but I just want to assure you
> that
> Linux does work correctly.
>
> Now for a shot in the dark, on one of your previous reply's I noticed that
> you
> did a 'developer' installation - I wonder if somehow that could be the
> problem
> (I'm not a programmer, so I don't know). I would assume that doing that
> type
> of install would just install the extra source code for each program, but I
> don't know for sure. It sounds like you have a pretty fast system, why not
> try
> a re-install at just the basic installation? Not to encourage you to waste
> time, but one of the reasons I've seen a lot of people give up on Linux is
> not
> being able to get it to work right away. I personally installed several
> times
> with each different distribution that I've tried out, just to get a feel for
> what that version wanted to leave me with. Guys / gals that have been using
> Linux forever, would cringe at that advice, but I think it's the best way to
> get familiar with your system. (That and some books)
>
> One more thought, usually when I experience the system running sort of slow,
> or
> as you describe the mouse cursor break dancing across the screen, it's
> because
> something is running in the background draining the system resources
> (windows
> does the same thing). This sort of ties in with the 'developer' install;
> again
> I'm not sure what that install does, but it may be running something in the
> background that doesn't need to be running.
>
> Possibly (if you can get your kde desktop open) you could click the icon
> 'Drakconf', when that window opens click 'startup services' and you can view
> (and change) which programs start at boot time. I believe you also get this
> option when you install your system (it's been awhile since I've installed).
> For example, if you're not on a LAN, you don't need the 'NFS daemon' to
> start
> on boot. I also turn off the 'CRON daemon'; you'll have to read through
> your
> documentation to see which ones you can live without.
>
> And finally, even if you don't do the 'developer' install, you can still
> install all of the tools you need to write and compile programs (compilers,
> etc.) just by selecting at install time.
>
> I hope this has given you something to work with, if not, try not to get
> discouraged, Linux is worth it!
> Michael Holt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Charles Ulwelling wrote:
>
> > Hum... Well when I open it it isn't just slow it gets to the point where
> it
> > just isn't responding, I assumed it was a bug in linux as far as RAM
> > utilization went. By not responding I mean I'll move the mouse and it
> will
> > take about 3 seconds for it to *jump* to the location I moved it to. It
> is
> > really annoying.
> > Just out of curiosity should linux run as smoothly as win98 as far as
> > opening apps, and moving the app window across the screen or is it
> naturally
> > jumpy and something I should get used to.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Charles Ulwelling
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Huereca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:32 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux is so slow... Please help
> >
> > I'm not sure why your system is so slow, but I can explain the RAM
> > utilization.
> > I've found out (as I once complained about the same thing that you are)
> that
> > Linux uses RAM differently than Windows. It'll take up all "x" (in your
> case
> > 256
> > MB) RAM soon after bootup. However, it shouldn't affect the performance at
> > all when you open program or anything. Instead of taking the Ram
> > in chunks like Windows, Linux just takes the whole thing at once. So don't
> > worry about seeing 100% ram utilization. Not sure why
> > Linux is slow though for you.
> >
> > > my processor is a PIII 450 overclocked to 540( not the problem I've
> > already
> > > declocked it and the same thing happens ), I have 256 megs of
> > SDRAM@100mhz,
> > > I have two ATA-66 drives one at 18 gigs and another at 27.3 gigs, and a
> > > diamond viper v770.
> > >
> > > It is really wierd... I boot up and look at the system resource
> manager(I
> > > forget the name) and I can see my RAM usage go up by about 6 to 12 megs
> a
> > > second until it is all used up. It doesn't use any of the swap file
> > either.
> > > I don't understand.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Charles Ulwelling
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of Vic
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 7:57 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux is so slow... Please help
> > >
> > >
> > > What is your processor speed, and how fast is
> > > your harddrive, like is it an older ide or newer udma33,
> > > or scsi?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Charles Ulwelling mewed:
> > > > I'm having a serious problem with linux mandrake 7.0. I boot up and
> > with
> > > > in a matter of seconds my ram utilization goes to max. I have 256
> megs
> > of
> > > > RAM so I don't understand how this could be. It makes linux
> completely
> > > > unuseable. I'm booting into KDE.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Charles Ulwelling
> > > --
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