Sorry to break into this thread.  It caught my attention.

A friend of mine told me a story about the birth of Win95.

A few guys who worked for a company were bought by "MickeySoft" ... one of
the guys for this purchased company thought it would be interesting to move
DOS to 32 bit.  As the story goes ... Mickey managers were scared of Billy
Bob and didn't want to do the project.    Billy had already told the press
that NT was the product.  Period.

The maverick decided to do it on his own.  Eventually the topic came up in a
meeting ... managers said the work wasn't possible.  The maverick spoke up
and said the project was about complete.  Billy Bob - seeing dollars in his
eyes - gave the project a thumbs up.

And that ... according to this story ... is how Win95 was born.

Now - somewhere - someone has written this in a book - anyone know the
title?  Something about 'guys in the attic' ...

Just thought it was funny that the argument of Win95 being an OS is still
debated.  But the above may explain why win95/98/ME development has been so
separated from Win NT.

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*


It would be better if you actually researched something before you went
spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself
look completely incompetant.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*


> somebody said:
> "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells,
> running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a
> completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long
> filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few
> cosmetic changes."
>
> nooooooo.....
> don't make me go balistic.
> win95 is not an OS.  win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of
many of the DOS files so no one would know it.  this was on of the things
some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with
the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent
that information to M$ when you logged on the internet).  of course, M$
denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true.  it may have a
new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of
hiding DOS.
>
> i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood.
one case in point.  PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS
box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash.  PKWare had to come
up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98.
>
> that's my opinion....
> and you all know what opinions are like
> *haha*
>
> adrian
>
>
>
>
> Adrian Smith
> 'de telepone dude
> Telecom Dept.
> x 7042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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