I should have read your reply before sending mine off to Bascule. That was
better than my point-point reply.

The firewall as I have it set up does most all you mentioned. I opted for
the
easy way out and used the Linux Router Project, notably Charles Steinkulers
diskimages.

As for the bad form of running most all those things on one box. I agree,
however, as you saw its just a couple of workstations and a printer. Besides
the
ipchains, there is a dnscache, dhcp, ssh, dhclient and portsentry (for
grins).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] HP Jetdirect printing


> Bascule,
>
> In his diagram, Dennis indicates that the two workstations are DHCP
clients.
> Since he is on a private network, behind a firewall, and does not include
a
> separate server for the DHCP provider service, the firewall itself could
> very well be the DHCP server--although he may have another server on his
> network doing the job.
>
> A firewall, can be simply that, a firewall, and nothing else. Or, it can
be
> several things at the same time... in this case, possibly a DHCP server.
It
> can also be a router...but not necessarily so.
>
> As a firewall that "masquerades" an internal, private network, it is doing
> some routing tasks, but not all. So, it is "sort of" a router, but not
> really. A true router will separate segments of a network by the subnet
> mask, and isolate network traffic that does not belong on the other
> segments, keeping the different segments nice and "quiet".
>
> A router can also act as a DHCP server if it is set up to do so. And, to
> complicate things even further, a router can also be a firewall. And, in
> fact, a router can be a DHCP serving, firewalling, packet-forwarding, DNS
> serer if you really, really, r-e-a-l-l-y, wanted it to be. But that's
giving
> the poor machine a bit of work to do all at the same time, and if you're
on
> a large internal network, it's not considered "good practice".
>
> Does that clear things up a bit? Or, have I successfully confused the
issue
> beyond repair?  :-)
>
> --Greg
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > could i jump in and ask a couple of questions that might help me
> > understand your diagram? i can't help you i'm afraid but i think i might
> > learn something from any future answers to your query, does dhcp mean
> > that the box is being given it's ip address by a dhcp server? (or is
> > being a server - only one needed though right?) in which case which is
> > the dhcp server, the firewall? (is this what is called a  router?), is
> > your network printer configured via the network or by physical switches
> > etc.(i.e. how do you assign it an ip?)
> > i hope you don't mind my butting in but i am interested in networking
> > questions
> >
> > bascule
> >
>
>
>
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