Greg Stewart wrote:

> > Besides the ipchains, there is a dnscache, dhcp, ssh, dhclient and
> portsentry (for
> > grins).
>
> Aw, c'mon... you can fit an Apache Web Server, MySQL Database, and a hefty
> load of php scripts in there too!!!  :-)

Would'nt that be swell! Though, even with a floppy formatted at 1.9M, would you
be able
to get all that on one floppy?

Those disks on a chip are cool and does have my attention. Down the road I will
move
to one of those.

> > I opted for the easy way out and used the Linux Router Project, notably
> Charles Steinkulers
> > diskimages.
>
> Actually, a friend of mine at work has just re-done his firewall, and built
> a disk-less linux router to handle firewalling and port-forwarding. He's
> booting from floppy on a modified kernel. I'm thinking of trying the same
> thing...the noise from the power supply fan on my P166 firewall/ftp server
> is just pissing me off.  :-)
>

Well, you know (and I have toyed with the idea) how about putting headsinks on
every chip (using thermal compound) in your box, uplug all the fans and see how
hot
things get.. ;-)

>
> --Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Veatch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I should have read your reply before sending mine off to Bascule. That was
> > better than my point-point reply.
> >
> > The firewall as I have it set up does most all you mentioned. I opted for
> > the
> > easy way out and used the Linux Router Project, notably Charles
> Steinkulers
> > diskimages.
> >
> > As for the bad form of running most all those things on one box. I agree,
> > however, as you saw its just a couple of workstations and a printer.
> Besides
> > the
> > ipchains, there is a dnscache, dhcp, ssh, dhclient and portsentry (for
> > grins).
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Greg Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] HP Jetdirect printing
> >
> >
> > > Bascule,
> > >
> > > In his diagram, Dennis indicates that the two workstations are DHCP
> > clients.
> > > Since he is on a private network, behind a firewall, and does not
> include
> > a
> > > separate server for the DHCP provider service, the firewall itself could
> > > very well be the DHCP server--although he may have another server on his
> > > network doing the job.
> > >
> > > A firewall, can be simply that, a firewall, and nothing else. Or, it can
> > be
> > > several things at the same time... in this case, possibly a DHCP server.
> > It
> > > can also be a router...but not necessarily so.
> > >
> > > As a firewall that "masquerades" an internal, private network, it is
> doing
> > > some routing tasks, but not all. So, it is "sort of" a router, but not
> > > really. A true router will separate segments of a network by the subnet
> > > mask, and isolate network traffic that does not belong on the other
> > > segments, keeping the different segments nice and "quiet".
> > >
> > > A router can also act as a DHCP server if it is set up to do so. And, to
> > > complicate things even further, a router can also be a firewall. And, in
> > > fact, a router can be a DHCP serving, firewalling, packet-forwarding,
> DNS
> > > serer if you really, really, r-e-a-l-l-y, wanted it to be. But that's
> > giving
> > > the poor machine a bit of work to do all at the same time, and if you're
> > on
> > > a large internal network, it's not considered "good practice".
> > >
> > > Does that clear things up a bit? Or, have I successfully confused the
> > issue
> > > beyond repair?  :-)
> > >
> > > --Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > > could i jump in and ask a couple of questions that might help me
> > > > understand your diagram? i can't help you i'm afraid but i think i
> might
> > > > learn something from any future answers to your query, does dhcp mean
> > > > that the box is being given it's ip address by a dhcp server? (or is
> > > > being a server - only one needed though right?) in which case which is
> > > > the dhcp server, the firewall? (is this what is called a  router?), is
> > > > your network printer configured via the network or by physical
> switches
> > > > etc.(i.e. how do you assign it an ip?)
> > > > i hope you don't mind my butting in but i am interested in networking
> > > > questions
> > > >
> > > > bascule
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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