@Frans,

Sorry, we must have miss understood the point we were trying to make
and as Fabio said the "tone" of an email can also easily be taken the
wrong way. I have great respect for you (love some of you blogposts),
just got a little upset when you got so annoyed/angry when I thought
we had a civil argument with pros/cons :)

As for not wanting your "answer", well we have to agree to disagree, I
was just trying to explain why (by making a counter argument) why I
did not agree with your answer. But lets leave that be, and end it
here, as you said enough is enough :)

Cheers
Torkel

On 5 Nov, 17:13, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:29 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > @Frans - what the hell is wrong with you? did I offend you in any way? I am
> > sorry if I did, that was not my intention, even though you probably deserve
> > this.
>
> I was, and still am just so f*cking tired about the bickering towards
> me about svn. The constant whining about why svn is not great etc. and
> I apparently didn't have a clue. That was totally NOT the point I was
> trying to make, and I am explaining that for a dozen posts already. My
> point was about code reviews. I simply tried to help Torkel, which was
> a reason for you to again show me how wrong I am about svn. So 1) I
> tried to help someone, I invested time in that, why is it a reason for
> you to reply to that the way you did? and 2) no, I am not here to
> defend SVN, like I said: I don't give a f*ck what you think about svn,
> I was trying to make a point about _code reviews_.
>
> It's all just insanely annoying. Here I am, trying to participate in a
> serious discussion, using serious arguments, and it didn't go that
> route, instead, it seems even absurd how I can use svn in normal daily
> use.
>
> I never had any slowdowns on svn update, but perhaps it's because we
> use a lot of different repositories. I.e. it's not 1 repository and
> one .sln file, but at least 8. Like I said, svn supports folder based
> checkouts, use them. It's the same with 'oh my vs.net is so slow
> because the 40+project solution loads so slow'. No, this isn't a
> remark to defend SVN, but to help out.
>
> Anyway, like I said, enough is enough, I don't need constant
> bickering, my time is too valuable for me. On github AND bitbucket,
> the NH source code is forked, the one on bitbucket seems to be
> actively kept up to date even. I think you all should simply bite the
> bullet and take a decision and act accordingly. If all of you want to
> move, move. YES that takes tremendous effort in stuff around the
> codebase, but after that you get what you want.
>
> Just crying in this thread how great <insert scm of choice> is, is
> easy. You all seem to think that by claiming some tool as the best,
> everything else simply falls into place. But someone has to make the
> move, people. Not just all look at Fabio and wait what he decides, as
> I can understand he's reluctant to make this move: no-one seems to be
> willing to offer help in making this move so he'll have to do a lot of
> work himself.
>
> You call yourself a team? Then act like one! Offer help for the move,
> if you want it so badly. Make a task list of what's to be done and
> assign yourself to some tasks, ask others to step in as well and make
> this happen. _IF_ you want it so badly because the world will suck
> otherwise. By just whining in this thread about how sucky SVN is, is
> lazy and of course nothing will change, because 'it works today' and
> Fabio otherwise has to do a tremendous amount of work alone. Ever
> thought about that, 'team' ? Instead of all the energy of trying to
> show to the world how wrong I am about SVN, you also could have
> invested that in a migration plan to github. Did anyone do that?
> Wouldn't that have been a lot more productive?
>
> @Torkel: I tried to help you as you asked a question. Apparently you
> didn't want my answer, as you already knew what was better. You asked
> why I didn't have a problem, and I honestly replied with what we do.
> If that apparently seems a lie to you, what else can I do? Do you
> really think we can create / ship software with sucky sourcecontrol
> which doesn't work? No. If you didn't want my answer, it would have
> been great if you would have said that in the first place, so I would
> have saved myself the time replying to you. Think about that next time
> you ask someone a question, ok?
>
> I've decided to leave this list because after this thread it occurred
> to me it's not really valuable to invest time on this mailinglist. So
> after this post I'll.
>
> FB
>
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>
>
>
> > Get your act together please.
>
> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard Brown (gmail) <
>
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > No abuse please.
>
> > --
> > Ken 
> > Egozi.http://www.kenegozi.com/bloghttp://www.delver.comhttp://www.musicglue...הכנס
> >  הקהילתי הראשון למפתחי דוטנט - בואו בהמוניכם

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