I knew you had feelings for me, but geez! I'm flattered :)

-Kyle

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I love you too..
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> --- On *Sun, 9/28/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
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> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 1:37 AM
>
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> Don't worry, my contempt for satan, err, the dealership is directed mostly
> towards the 300% markup parts counter guys. The fact that they will come
> down drastically in price so easily when pitted against eachother shows that
> they're ridiculously marked up. Yeah, we had the tester hooked up to both
> leads. They ran fine at first, but after running for a while they started to
> fail. At different intervals ofcourse as one was in worse shape than the
> other. I too am hesistant to replace parts without making sure that's the
> part that is bad, I'm also hesitant to break down on a houston freeway
> during rushhour again. And then there's the ants...
>
> -Kyle
> -Ormiga!
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> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>>  yeah, I have one of those testers. Did you check the plug cap resistance?
>> They should be 5~10 meg each. If you examined the schematic for the bike you
>> will see that the output side of the coils is actually a loop. In effect,
>> one plug fires from the center electrode and the other from the ground
>> strap. Both at the same time. One fires on an exhaust stroke while the other
>> is on a compression stroke. With this in mind, if one plug wire is off, both
>> cease to function since the loop is broken. Now when the tester is used by
>> an amateur, it can show a bad component. I don't agree with the jump start
>> theory but anything is possible. I don't recall ever replacing a coil set on
>> one of those. The failure rate is below .3%. I have replaced pulse coils on
>> a fair number of those bikes. Failure is due to heat. Check resistance of
>> those cold and hot. All I'm trying to do is completely confirm failed
>> component. If you are satisfied with the results as it stands now, replace
>> with OEM. One of my guys has a CB650sc with over 38k on it and all original
>> electrics.
>> Now I'll duck while all you dealer haters respond.
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 9/27/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 1:32 AM
>>
>>
>> One was just out of specs, the other one had infinite resistance. I then
>> took it to the local cycle shop that had a fancy ignition coil tester. Nifty
>> adapter on the end kind of like a dummy sparkplug you could screw in and out
>> to adjust the gap on the fly. One coil could just barely make a spark at
>> less than 1/4 inch, the other could spark almost twice that. Both petered
>> out after a few minutes, after they warmed up. I know the odds of both going
>> bad are twice as unlikely, but one was definitely worse than the other. That
>> explains why it felt like my bike was only running on 2 cyls before it
>> crapped out completely the other day when it was hot. And after a few
>> minutes cooling off it would run, but again like it was on half its cyls.
>> Then after I let it set for 30 mins it cranked up and ran on all cyls, even
>> if it was still missing occasionally. One of the only situations I can think
>> of that would cause both coils to fail around the same time would be jump
>> starting off of a running car. I'm afraid that if the previous owner tried
>> that I may have more than just coil problems. This bike has had ever single
>> electrical system knackered in some form or another.
>>
>> -Kyle
>> -picked up "knackered" from watching TopGear ;)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>>> How did you determine that ? Do you know what the odds of both going bad
>>> at the same are ? Fall back and regroup. Fill me in.
>>>
>>> --- On *Fri, 9/26/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Coils?
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 3:06 PM
>>>
>>> I finally got a chance to take a break from himmicane cleanup to look at
>>> my bike today. Turns out the coils are dead, or we don't know how to work a
>>> multimeter. I'm fairly confident in my multimeter skills so I'm going to go
>>> with dead coils. Anyone have any recommendations on aftermarkets or stick
>>> with OEM?
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>> -83CB650SC
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