I wish it was because of fear of lawsuits. The store mgr kept one guy on
because she thought he was poor because all he ate for lunch every day was a
half dozen boiled eggs. He wasn't any poorer than anyone else, that was just
some stupid diet he had found on the internet. Since I don't drink tho, I
probably would have fired someone hungover.

-Kyle

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It does work when it's done carefully. I tell new people to never screw up
> and try to hide it from me. Just come to me when you do it and we'll work it
> out. Hide it and I find it, you're gone. When I come back from a test and
> bring it in the garage and go for tools, the tech wants to know why. That's
> a good time to turn it into a low-key education in the details that I want.
> I always tell them when I like something and why I do. No hurt feelings,
> always progress. I did the same in Fla. Nobody likes an outsider coming in
> to run a place and I got more than a hint of animosity from the techs there.
> (# Honda keeps a data base of field techs and management people that is
> evaluated and updated. That's how I got the job) After a few weeks, a tech
> came in hungover and I sent him home. Before he left I asked for his work
> orders. He thought I was going to fire him. I just said Be here tomorrow. I
> took his orders and finished his jobs during that day and nobody ever
> questioned me again. The rule is "I was doing this before you were born.
> Don't f%k with the old guy"
> And. yes, not everything is golden. I have thief and a lazy SOB with us
> now. Takes time to deal with both of them. You said it, really hard to fire
> somebody with today's laws. The easiest reason is "incurring possible
> liability issues".
> FYI: we have never been sued. Now that takes work.
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/30/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:28 AM
>
>
> Wish I had had that kind of ctrl. I could fire someone, but all they had to
> do was whine to the store mgr, who would go soft and keep them on. Kind of
> hard to enforce anything when you've got a worker that now knows they don't
> have to listen to a damn thing you say. After a while I gave up trying.
> Thats the main reason I moved on.
>
> The main reason i quit letting Toyota do my oil changes is the loose drain
> plugs. The 2nd one dumped all my engine oil 50+ miles away from home. I
> turned it off in time, but figured I was just being lazy and could leave the
> damn drain plug loose myself and safe a few $$. They could have used your
> system.
>
> -Kyle
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>  The whole shop. I run a tight ship as they say. We make money on warranty
>> as well. That's something almost unheard of. To have survived since 1965
>> takes more than a little work. I sort of micro-manage things. Learned that
>> from the boss's father who hired me from a Suzuki dealership. Honda had just
>> come out with the CR line and he wanted a veteran two stroke wrench. His son
>> took over years later and left me on my own to oversee the shop. The elder
>> had been a mechanic for a Ford agency in the 30's on till 1959. A great guy,
>> passed on in 1996. I never knew anybody with his people skills. All finished
>> work must pass through my hands for approval. At first it looks a little
>> authoritarian but in the end the guys learn that it's me who takes the hit
>> if things don't go right. Additionally, they don't have to deal with
>> customers. I'm always between them and the owner and the customer. Hey, it
>> works.
>> Oh yeah, you get used to the wailing of the damned here in hell. I was
>> wondering if we should get red work uniforms ?
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/29/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 1:02 AM
>>
>>
>> Is that *your* return rate less than 1% or your whole shops? At the
>> computer store I was able to keep my personal rate below 1%, but never could
>> convince the other knuckleheads that its easier just to take the time to fix
>> it right hte first time.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>  No, I don't. The parts manager does. I have worked in the field since
>>> 1967 (Suzuki,Yamaha first) and have been service manager at our dealership-
>>> (or should I say pits of hell ?) since 1972. (three years out to live in
>>> Fla) I won't go into the finances of operating a dealership because at least
>>> 95% of the forum hates our guts. Sometimes it amuses me to read all the back
>>> alley fixes and shortcuts. I do give free advice. As if anybody cares.
>>>  Sure, I'm a big OEM person. I have to keep the return rate below 3% ( I
>>> do, less than one) I really don't care what people use for replacement
>>> parts, it's their bike (and their butt).
>>> When I stumbled on to this forum I thought more riders would be
>>> interested in "improving the breed" instead of sustaining it on life
>>> support. Guess again. We have spoke about IT work (to others grumbling) and
>>> I do dabble in IT. I am first an engine builder and tuner. For the most part
>>> I man a desk now. At 64 I look forward to retirement.
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 9/29/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 12:03 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh don't tell me you do the needless markups? You know, there's a reason
>>> my '03 taco is still ticking after 240K miles, because I use genuine toyota
>>> parts. But I hate the fact that I can get the parts for 30 to 25% of what i
>>> was originally quoted after pitting the two dealerships against eachother. I
>>> suspect the same is true for this Honda, and I've had success lowering parts
>>> by 60% already. Its possible, but its a hassle. I buy the best parts I can,
>>> I feel cheated by the rediculous markups at the parts counter. I know you
>>> gotta make a buck, but there's a guy at the toyota dealership that gives me
>>> a really decent price each time, I ask for him by name now, he gets all my
>>> commissions, more dealerships should get that message.
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Do you think anybody will notice my horns if I wear a baseball cap ?
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 9/28/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 11:51 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I knew you had feelings for me, but geez! I'm flattered :)
>>>>
>>>> -Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I love you too..
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Sun, 9/28/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 1:37 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry, my contempt for satan, err, the dealership is directed
>>>>> mostly towards the 300% markup parts counter guys. The fact that they will
>>>>> come down drastically in price so easily when pitted against eachother 
>>>>> shows
>>>>> that they're ridiculously marked up. Yeah, we had the tester hooked up to
>>>>> both leads. They ran fine at first, but after running for a while they
>>>>> started to fail. At different intervals ofcourse as one was in worse shape
>>>>> than the other. I too am hesistant to replace parts without making sure
>>>>> that's the part that is bad, I'm also hesitant to break down on a houston
>>>>> freeway during rushhour again. And then there's the ants...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>> -Ormiga!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  yeah, I have one of those testers. Did you check the plug cap
>>>>>> resistance? They should be 5~10 meg each. If you examined the schematic 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the bike you will see that the output side of the coils is actually a 
>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>> In effect, one plug fires from the center electrode and the other from 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ground strap. Both at the same time. One fires on an exhaust stroke while
>>>>>> the other is on a compression stroke. With this in mind, if one plug 
>>>>>> wire is
>>>>>> off, both cease to function since the loop is broken. Now when the 
>>>>>> tester is
>>>>>> used by an amateur, it can show a bad component. I don't agree with the 
>>>>>> jump
>>>>>> start theory but anything is possible. I don't recall ever replacing a 
>>>>>> coil
>>>>>> set on one of those. The failure rate is below .3%. I have replaced pulse
>>>>>> coils on a fair number of those bikes. Failure is due to heat. Check
>>>>>> resistance of those cold and hot. All I'm trying to do is completely 
>>>>>> confirm
>>>>>> failed component. If you are satisfied with the results as it stands now,
>>>>>> replace with OEM. One of my guys has a CB650sc with over 38k on it and 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> original electrics.
>>>>>> Now I'll duck while all you dealer haters respond.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/27/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coils?
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 1:32 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One was just out of specs, the other one had infinite resistance. I
>>>>>> then took it to the local cycle shop that had a fancy ignition coil 
>>>>>> tester.
>>>>>> Nifty adapter on the end kind of like a dummy sparkplug you could screw 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> and out to adjust the gap on the fly. One coil could just barely make a
>>>>>> spark at less than 1/4 inch, the other could spark almost twice that. 
>>>>>> Both
>>>>>> petered out after a few minutes, after they warmed up. I know the odds of
>>>>>> both going bad are twice as unlikely, but one was definitely worse than 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other. That explains why it felt like my bike was only running on 2 cyls
>>>>>> before it crapped out completely the other day when it was hot. And 
>>>>>> after a
>>>>>> few minutes cooling off it would run, but again like it was on half its
>>>>>> cyls. Then after I let it set for 30 mins it cranked up and ran on all 
>>>>>> cyls,
>>>>>> even if it was still missing occasionally. One of the only situations I 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> think of that would cause both coils to fail around the same time would 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> jump starting off of a running car. I'm afraid that if the previous owner
>>>>>> tried that I may have more than just coil problems. This bike has had 
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> single electrical system knackered in some form or another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>> -picked up "knackered" from watching TopGear ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL 
>>>>>> PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you determine that ? Do you know what the odds of both going
>>>>>>> bad at the same are ? Fall back and regroup. Fill me in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On *Fri, 9/26/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Coils?
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 3:06 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I finally got a chance to take a break from himmicane cleanup to look
>>>>>>> at my bike today. Turns out the coils are dead, or we don't know how to 
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> a multimeter. I'm fairly confident in my multimeter skills so I'm going 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> go with dead coils. Anyone have any recommendations on aftermarkets or 
>>>>>>> stick
>>>>>>> with OEM?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>>> -83CB650SC
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