And to anyone who is confused by this shy-would-be-contributor's
statements: allow me to correct him. It isn't the case that I don't
want help with Non (as he phrased it, that I "don't want anyone
touching my software". The fact is that *I actually use this software
and I need it to work*, so of course I'm only interested in changes
that *improve* it. Perhaps this sounds obvious, but most of the
changes that people propose, as I attempted to illustrate in the
Parable of the Free Software Developer and the Imposing Stranger, do
not represent improvements, but usually mere fever dreams---just the
very beginnings of ideas before any scrutiny or good judgement has
been applied to them. And these are almost never in the form of
patches, but rather demands that I *use my personal time to implement
foolish, unuseful things*. Other developers may not have the
discernment to recognize these things and waste their time
implementing nonsense. Others may have some other way of rejecting
demands without ruffling feathers that I'm unaware of (although based
on all the flame wars I've read in the past, I doubt it).
So yes, anyone who has the courage to submit something will be
treated well, and if the thing submitted is good, it will be
gratefully accepted. But if it is not good, I cannot accept it (but
perhaps it can be amended and or resubmitted in another form).
People who make demands or merely hint that that might submit
something in exchange for some kind of special treatment shouldn't be
surprised that nothing good comes from their acts of deception.
What a world we're living in that I have to explain this stuff to
people...
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 7:39 AM J. Liles <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And to anyone else who "was thinking about maybe sending a
patch", either man up and send it or keep quiet about it. I've
had enough of these hurtful lies.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 7:34 AM J. Liles <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Don't let the door but you on the way out, coward.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 6:28 AM Philipp Mueller
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Jeez, seriously?
I did also thought a couple of times to contribute to your
awesome Non software by digging into the code and sending a
patch. Because I like your approach and design but I have
to soft
restart my laptop ever other week since either
`non-timeline` or
`non-mixer` did became a zombie process or because
`non-timeline`
did already bricked two sessions since the last updates. But
because of that attitude of yours I abstained from it
(although
these things are sufficiently annoying for me to tackle
them one
day). This might be happening with other people too (and
might
cause the scarcity of patches sent you were complaining
about).
I think everyone did understood by now that you do not
like other
people to touch your stuff and your definition of
"freedom" does
differ from the one used by e.g. Filipe. But if you are using
this mailing list for rants and personal attacks (I don't
mind
the sketches for your own version of "the fountainhead")
I better
just unsubscribe and maintain/fix my own fork of Non. But,
instead, I would really prefer for all the nice audio
projects on
Linux to coexist and live in harmony.
So, please be nice to each other.
All the best,
Phil
On 27.01.21 02:13, J. Liles wrote:
> I would just like to point out that shortly after I
diplomatically
> accepted this redundant and unnecessary PR (which had
absolutely
> nothing to do with the supposed justifications for the
creation of the
> impostor project, and in fact only served to mask a
problem that
> Filipe had himself created in his own Carla project,
and so was, IMHO,
> a pointless choice), Filipe announced a new release of
that same
> impostor project, continuing in the direction of creating
> incompatibilities with the genuine NSM. Conspicuously
absent from the
> announcement was any kind of correction or apology for
the slanderous
> statements of the first announcement, and also absent
was any mention
> of the name being changed, or the true
origins/authorship of NSM, or
> any proposed efforts to amend the mistake and reconcile
whatever
> differences there may be with the code.
>
> And so yet again, it can be seen that Filipe Coelho
says one thing
> while he does another.
>
> I was very hopeful that his comments were sincere (even
though that
> did not seem at all consistent with his behavior), but
I think it's
> perfectly clear now that they were not.
>
> His intention has been from the start to create an
incompatible
> version of NSM, trick everyone into using it through
deceptive naming
> and slander, and then shut me, the author and prime
user of NSM, out
> in the cold, so that I can't even use the program I
invented,
> designed, implemented, and offered to the world for
free out of pure
> goodwill.
>
> On that note, I've reverted Filipe's redundant PR,
which he clearly
> only submitted as another manipulative stunt. His name
is a stain on
> that which it touches.
>
> I think Linux Audio has jumped the shark at this point.
They ran out
> of proprietary software to clone/copy, so they started
cloning/copying
> existing free-software projects (justifying themselves
with slanderous
> implications of not really being free-software). Think
about the
> consequences of this: If you ostracize those who do the
inventing for
> you, you're left with less invention. If you bite the
hand that feeds
> you, you're left with less sustenance. I know FIlipe
isn't exactly
> brilliant, but I certainly would have thought he was
smart enough to
> understand these simple facts.
>
> He has tried to turn my software into "spiteware",
"jealousyware".
> This is what we've come to.
>
> Let's reiterate Filipe's definition of "toxic":
>
> What Filipe et al consider "toxic":
>
> * Being right
> * Being principled
> * Having a backbone
> * Having self-respect
> * Giving freely
> * Having standards
> * Providing mentorship
> * Inventiveness
> * Providing contributions to other projects
> * Being careful
> * Being skillful
> * Supporting diversity
>
> What Filipe et al consider "not toxic":
>
> * Lying
> * Slandering
> * Cloning/copying
> * Not providing contributions to other projects
> * Being wrong
> * Being careless
> * Being unskillful
> * Suppressing diversity
>
> Not one of these fine fellows had the courage or the
self-respect to
> submit a single useful contribution to the project that
they have
> benefited greatly from (just this token one-liner stuff
in an attempt
> to manipulate the narrative by getting their cute
little avatar to
> show up on GitHub). Probably out of fear of having
their half-baked
> ideas scrutinized.
>
> Just think about that for a moment. Let it settle in.
Now think about
> what free-software really means, what it's really
supposed to be
> about. Now think about what a community really is. Now
look back to
> Filipe and his Community with a capital C. Looks like a
caricature,
> doesn't it? A deception. Well have fun with your
Community; I'm happy
> to be outside of it, where there's still some room to
move around and
> have an original thought or two.
>
> Given that Filipe is the self-appointed and apparently
uncontested
> god/king of Linux Audio, well let's just say the future
is looking
> pretty dim. I feel sorry for everyone who's name has
been dragged
> through the mud by association with him and his crew.
Frankly, I think
> it's pathetic. But I guess people without a creative
bone in their
> bodies have to find some way to occupy themselves.
>
> Maybe one day Filipe will learn to play an instrument
or something and
> he'll give up trying to gain fame by crudely copying
the work of
> better men.
>
> I somehow doubt it though. I'm looking forward to his
next project, a
> "fork" of the Linux kernel called Filipux (or perhaps
Felicia). He'll
> have the full-stack under his umbrella then, and we can
all look
> forward to a gray new future of nothing new or
interesting ever
> happening in Linux Audio.
>
> To everyone who stands by and lets Filipe and his gang
get away with
> this stuff: Enjoy your Filipe Coelho generic brand
bland bloatware.
>
> Personally, I'm embarrassed to be associated with Linux
Audio at this
> point. Truly pathetic.
>
>
