And to anyone else who "was thinking about maybe sending a patch", either
man up and send it or keep quiet about it. I've had enough of these hurtful
lies.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 7:34 AM J. Liles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't let the door but you on the way out, coward.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 6:28 AM Philipp Mueller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Jeez, seriously?
>>
>> I did also thought a couple of times to contribute to your
>> awesome Non software by digging into the code and sending a
>> patch. Because I like your approach and design but I have to soft
>> restart my laptop ever other week since either `non-timeline` or
>> `non-mixer` did became a zombie process or because `non-timeline`
>> did already bricked two sessions since the last updates. But
>> because of that attitude of yours I abstained from it (although
>> these things are sufficiently annoying for me to tackle them one
>> day). This might be happening with other people too (and might
>> cause the scarcity of patches sent you were complaining about).
>>
>> I think everyone did understood by now that you do not like other
>> people to touch your stuff and your definition of "freedom" does
>> differ from the one used by e.g. Filipe. But if you are using
>> this mailing list for rants and personal attacks (I don't mind
>> the sketches for your own version of "the fountainhead") I better
>> just unsubscribe and maintain/fix my own fork of Non. But,
>> instead, I would really prefer for all the nice audio projects on
>> Linux to coexist and live in harmony.
>>
>> So, please be nice to each other.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Phil
>>
>> On 27.01.21 02:13, J. Liles wrote:
>> > I would just like to point out that shortly after I diplomatically
>> > accepted this redundant and unnecessary PR (which had absolutely
>> > nothing to do with the supposed justifications for the creation of the
>> > impostor project, and in fact only served to mask a problem that
>> > Filipe had himself created in his own Carla project, and so was, IMHO,
>> > a pointless choice), Filipe announced a new release of that same
>> > impostor project, continuing in the direction of creating
>> > incompatibilities with the genuine NSM. Conspicuously absent from the
>> > announcement was any kind of correction or apology for the slanderous
>> > statements of the first announcement, and also absent was any mention
>> > of the name being changed, or the true origins/authorship of NSM, or
>> > any proposed efforts to amend the mistake and reconcile whatever
>> > differences there may be with the code.
>> >
>> > And so yet again, it can be seen that Filipe Coelho says one thing
>> > while he does another.
>> >
>> > I was very hopeful that his comments were sincere (even though that
>> > did not seem at all consistent with his behavior), but I think it's
>> > perfectly clear now that they were not.
>> >
>> > His intention has been from the start to create an incompatible
>> > version of NSM, trick everyone into using it through deceptive naming
>> > and slander, and then shut me, the author and prime user of NSM, out
>> > in the cold, so that I can't even use the program I invented,
>> > designed, implemented, and offered to the world for free out of pure
>> > goodwill.
>> >
>> > On that note, I've reverted Filipe's redundant PR, which he clearly
>> > only submitted as another manipulative stunt. His name is a stain on
>> > that which it touches.
>> >
>> > I think Linux Audio has jumped the shark at this point. They ran out
>> > of proprietary software to clone/copy, so they started cloning/copying
>> > existing free-software projects (justifying themselves with slanderous
>> > implications of not really being free-software). Think about the
>> > consequences of this: If you ostracize those who do the inventing for
>> > you, you're left with less invention. If you bite the hand that feeds
>> > you, you're left with less sustenance. I know FIlipe isn't exactly
>> > brilliant, but I certainly would have thought he was smart enough to
>> > understand these simple facts.
>> >
>> > He has tried to turn my software into "spiteware", "jealousyware".
>> > This is what we've come to.
>> >
>> > Let's reiterate Filipe's definition of "toxic":
>> >
>> > What Filipe et al consider "toxic":
>> >
>> > * Being right
>> > * Being principled
>> > * Having a backbone
>> > * Having self-respect
>> > * Giving freely
>> > * Having standards
>> > * Providing mentorship
>> > * Inventiveness
>> > * Providing contributions to other projects
>> > * Being careful
>> > * Being skillful
>> > * Supporting diversity
>> >
>> > What Filipe et al consider "not toxic":
>> >
>> > * Lying
>> > * Slandering
>> > * Cloning/copying
>> > * Not providing contributions to other projects
>> > * Being wrong
>> > * Being careless
>> > * Being unskillful
>> > * Suppressing diversity
>> >
>> > Not one of these fine fellows had the courage or the self-respect to
>> > submit a single useful contribution to the project that they have
>> > benefited greatly from (just this token one-liner stuff in an attempt
>> > to manipulate the narrative by getting their cute little avatar to
>> > show up on GitHub). Probably out of fear of having their half-baked
>> > ideas scrutinized.
>> >
>> > Just think about that for a moment. Let it settle in. Now think about
>> > what free-software really means, what it's really supposed to be
>> > about. Now think about what a community really is. Now look back to
>> > Filipe and his Community with a capital C. Looks like a caricature,
>> > doesn't it? A deception. Well have fun with your Community; I'm happy
>> > to be outside of it, where there's still some room to move around and
>> > have an original thought or two.
>> >
>> > Given that Filipe is the self-appointed and apparently uncontested
>> > god/king of Linux Audio, well let's just say the future is looking
>> > pretty dim. I feel sorry for everyone who's name has been dragged
>> > through the mud by association with him and his crew. Frankly, I think
>> > it's pathetic. But I guess people without a creative bone in their
>> > bodies have to find some way to occupy themselves.
>> >
>> > Maybe one day Filipe will learn to play an instrument or something and
>> > he'll give up trying to gain fame by crudely copying the work of
>> > better men.
>> >
>> > I somehow doubt it though. I'm looking forward to his next project, a
>> > "fork" of the Linux kernel called Filipux (or perhaps Felicia). He'll
>> > have the full-stack under his umbrella then, and we can all look
>> > forward to a gray new future of nothing new or interesting ever
>> > happening in Linux Audio.
>> >
>> > To everyone who stands by and lets Filipe and his gang get away with
>> > this stuff: Enjoy your Filipe Coelho generic brand bland bloatware.
>> >
>> > Personally, I'm embarrassed to be associated with Linux Audio at this
>> > point. Truly pathetic.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

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