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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote:

> " However, that store likely doesn't scale nationally now, does it?  If it
> did, there would be more of them, right?"
>
> But then he might not frequent them any more because they're just a big
> chain and their services would be diminished.
> On Apr 22, 2014 7:29 AM, "Jonathan Link" <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You haven't even described the service that they provide, merely that
>> they have different products than the corporate chain stores.  So, the only
>> thing that we can evaluate that store on, is that you say they have good
>> customer service and they have a good selection of products that the large
>> corporate chain store has.  So, since we have no description of what their
>> customer service entails, it's a stretch to say that customer service wins.
>>  It may very will be that their different product selection is enough to
>> win.  It may boil down to a lot of things that make that store win.
>>  However, that store likely doesn't scale nationally now, does it?  If it
>> did, there would be more of them, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> True, but as I stated, they also have customer service, and I wouldn't
>>> shop there without it. They are genuinely nice folks who routinely make me
>>> happy to have shopped there.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Jonathan Link 
>>> <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Product selection is not customer service, per se.  Understanding one's
>>>> market, making a niche market is not a function of customer service, it's
>>>> good business.  Customer service would be like loading your car, assisting
>>>> you down the aisles, picking your order on your behalf, and/or delivery to
>>>> your home.
>>>>
>>>> It may be that they survey their customers extensively to see what they
>>>> want to buy, but that's not customer service.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, not all category leaders are good at customer service. As MBS has
>>>>> pointed out, those who have monopoly grants from the government often
>>>>> prosper without customer service. Those who offer retail Internet
>>>>> connectivity (often WISPs), have customer service as a differentiator -
>>>>> sometimes it's their only differentiator, because they're shut out by law
>>>>> from string cable/fiber, and can only occupy a small niche, usually well
>>>>> outside of a metropolitan market.
>>>>>
>>>>> As well, I'm fairly sure not all companies with good customer service
>>>>> are category leaders, though I think that's more often true in smaller
>>>>> markets - but if I were to run across such a company, I'd probably prefer
>>>>> to buy their stock, and would definitely give them my custom.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, in most free(ish) markets, category leaders are often, though
>>>>> not always, very good at customer service. It probably depends a lot on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> market in question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take groceries, for example. My wife and I don't shop at the large
>>>>> corporate chain stores that are local to me (Albertsons, QFC, Safeway,
>>>>> etc.).  We shop at a smaller locally owned store, where they have very 
>>>>> good
>>>>> service, and a really good selection - not just the basics, but nice stuff
>>>>> that it's hard to find at the large chains that focus on the lowest price
>>>>> at the cost of service and selection. Their prices where I shop are 
>>>>> usually
>>>>> within a percent of the large stores. For me (and obviously a fair number
>>>>> of other people, as the store is doing well), customer service wins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, only the category leaders (and those vying to be category
>>>>>> leaders) offer customer service?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any category leaders that *don't* offer customer service
>>>>>> (or anything approaching real customer service), while others in their
>>>>>> category do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
>>>>>>> scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> Re: Companies' incentives: That's not universally true. I refer
>>>>>>> you to companies that have as at least some of their core operating
>>>>>>> principles the ideas of customer service -
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > That's an ends to a means. That customer service exists to promote
>>>>>>> goodwill with regard to the customer buying products the sell,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The litmus test for these:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Cold the company conceivably exist by eliminating the "extra mile"
>>>>>>> customer service? Yes. Could they existin by eliminating product sales? 
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hrm. I don't think that's the right yardstick. I believe the question
>>>>>>> should be: Would these companies be category leaders if they didn't
>>>>>>> have such good customer service? And I believe the answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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