Just because they got in that way doesn't mean the practice continues... :)
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. The more formal an organization, the less flexibility there often is with the rules. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Ben M. Schorr <b...@rolandschorr.com> wrote: > Apparently you wouldn't HAVE to get a degree to work at Microsoft or > Facebook. Well...at least not to be CEO of either... > > Ben M. Schorr > Roland Schorr & Tower > www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:30 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > "This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." > Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess > the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech > industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand > that thinking. > > It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying "we > changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've heard of > that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't > told what was really happening. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for > a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in > the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes > when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no > college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." > > I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) > > > Carl Webster > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > > > Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very > > strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact > > that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER > > ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, > > period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can > > fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied > > background which would include more than one job over a decade. I > > think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds > > to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch > > my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best > > efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also > obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! > > > > Murray > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Hill > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > > I feel for you. > > > > But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can > > offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were > > employed by them. > > > > You are better off with an employer that shares your values. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > > > "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." > > > > Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no > > project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff > > treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop > > the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), > > I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop > > the fires (also gave > > details.) > > > > I guess they rather have the fires... > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 > > > years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. > > > > > > I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice > > > people so far. > > > > > > I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows > > > background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > Don K > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Jacob Kisner <jbdkis...@gmail.com> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM > > > Subject: OT - ugh! > > > > > > Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a > > > different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we > > > are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that > > > we changed our mind... "We did not realize you were with the same > > > company for 15 years..." 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