Dear Ken,
How can I configure Windows to run without a page file? Will this
affect the performance ?
Thanks.
Paul Cheuk.
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Windows has no dependence on a page file. I'm typing this on a machine that
has no page file configured at the moment, and there is no "hell breaking
lose"
At the moment SSDs have pretty poor write performance - it's completely
awful compared to a 7200 RPM drive (let alone faster drives that you get in
desktops). Until *that* issue is fixed, you won't see them in anything but
ruggedized laptops or ultralights or similar that are worried about battery
life.
Cheers
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed
More and more laptops these days are also shipping with SSDs, and with
the price of flash plumetting, it may be all laptops will use them in
the future. Biggest problem is wear leveling and Windows' dependence on
the pagefile, which will kill a ssd in time. Maybe MS will fix that
issue. I run Linux on my laptop without a pagefile and it runs like a
dream, try running Windows without a pagefile and watch all hell break
loose.
Ken Schaefer wrote:
>
> There are lots of laptop models that have 7200 RPM as an option. All
> of our new Latitudes are coming with 7200 RPM disks (probably a couple
> of thousand this year). Over at MSFT, their IBM Thinkpads are
> defaulting to 7200 RPM, and I expect their other vendors will be going
> that way too.
>
> It's now only on the cheaper models, or the ultralights, where 7200
> RPM isn't being offered. 7200 RPM still does have a price premium over
> 5400 RPM (as well as reduced space).
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
> *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 May 2008 2:29 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* R: Why XP is doomed
>
> 15k for SAS were until a couple of monthes ago only for SAS 3.5'' .Now
> they are out also for SAS 2.5'.
>
> Manufacturers started now to ship some models of laptops with 2.5''
> 7200 rpm
>
> *GuidoElia*
>
> *HELPPC*
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> *Da:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Inviato:* lunedì 12 maggio 2008 17.21
> *A:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Oggetto:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Ok, maybe the 80's was a stretch, I was kidding.
>
> But 72000 RPM 2.5" disks have been out for a few years I would
> imagine. At least three years I would imagine, since I have been
> working with laptops. Usually you have to buy them separately, as the
> manufacturer does not ship them.
>
> Even 10,000 RPM 2.5" drives are out now. SAS and SATA.
>
> I just got a 15K RPM in my workstation now.
>
> *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 10:12 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
>
> You are wrong . On laptops 7200rpm disks are new! Some brands started
> now to distribute them on laptops and for workstations 10000 rpm SATA
>
> *GuidoElia*
>
> *HELPPC*
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> *Da:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Inviato:* lunedì 12 maggio 2008 16.48
> *A:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Oggetto:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> I never buy any laptops with 5400 RPM disks. That's so 1980's. I throw
> 7200 in all our laptops, heat has never been a problem. Now, on an
> ultra-portable or tablet, I could see how it could be... But then
> again, there are many 7200 RPM drives that claim they are just as cool
> as 5400 rpm drives...
>
> *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 9:04 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Doesn't putting in a 7200 spin disk increase the heat factor? I always
> thought that was the reason some laptops come with 5400 spin drives to
> keep the heat down.
>
> Bill Lambert
>
> Concuity
>
> 847-941-9206
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:46 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> My wife has a top of the line Sony SZ48 series Vaio. Fantastic machine
> - carbon fibre case, weighs next to nothing, two GPUs. Performance out
> of the box is abysmal. I replaced the drive with a 7200 RPM disk,
> upped the RAM, and tried to remove as much Sony crapware as possible
> (it even comes with its own copy of SQL Server to manage your media -
> because WMP obviously can't do that). Runs a lot better now, but I
> suspect it'll run a lot better with a clean install.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 May 2008 9:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Check out this story:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=429
>
> It's a perfect example of a manufacturer shipping a Vista machine with
> unacceptable performance. This resulted in a black eye for the
> manufacturer (Sony in this case, but they're not the only ones to do
> this) and a lost customer for the manufacturer and Microsoft alike.
>
> I didn't participate in the Vista beta, but I did grab it as soon as
> it RTM'd. I installed it on my home desktop, which is a modest box
> (Pentium D CPU w/ 2 GB of RAM) I built myself a good year before Vista
> was released. It ran great. Still does. Now, if I could run Vista fine
> on a machine that I built from parts that were never designed to work
> with Vista, why is it that PC manufacturers can't ship brand new
> machines that work as well?
>
> John
>
> *From:* Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:44 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Hold on there... If an OS requires new drivers and more horsepower...
> we can't blame the new OS?
>
> Oh yes we can.
>
> --Matt ross
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> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Vista wasn't perfect out of the gate, but it's not the piece of junk
> people think it is, either. A huge reason Vista has a negative image is
> that the hardware OEMs have been releasing buggy drivers for it--if they
> released drivers for it at all--and have been shipping Vista computers
> that either don't have enough horsepower or are bloated with crapware or
> bad drivers (or all three). It all adds up to a bad experience for
> users, and the OS gets the blame.
>
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