+1 I've been running without a pagefile for years. 3gb, no problems with very large files. If you have enough memory, you do not need a pagefile.
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Windows has no dependence on a page file. I'm typing this on a machine that > has no page file configured at the moment, and there is no "hell breaking > lose" > > At the moment SSDs have pretty poor write performance - it's completely awful > compared to a 7200 RPM drive (let alone faster drives that you get in > desktops). Until *that* issue is fixed, you won't see them in anything but > ruggedized laptops or ultralights or similar that are worried about battery > life. > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 6:34 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed > > > More and more laptops these days are also shipping with SSDs, and with > the price of flash plumetting, it may be all laptops will use them in > the future. Biggest problem is wear leveling and Windows' dependence on > the pagefile, which will kill a ssd in time. Maybe MS will fix that > issue. I run Linux on my laptop without a pagefile and it runs like a > dream, try running Windows without a pagefile and watch all hell break > loose. > > Ken Schaefer wrote: > > > > There are lots of laptop models that have 7200 RPM as an option. All > > of our new Latitudes are coming with 7200 RPM disks (probably a couple > > of thousand this year). Over at MSFT, their IBM Thinkpads are > > defaulting to 7200 RPM, and I expect their other vendors will be going > > that way too. > > > > It's now only on the cheaper models, or the ultralights, where 7200 > > RPM isn't being offered. 7200 RPM still does have a price premium over > > 5400 RPM (as well as reduced space). > > > > Cheers > > > > Ken > > > > *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 May 2008 2:29 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* R: Why XP is doomed > > > > 15k for SAS were until a couple of monthes ago only for SAS 3.5'' .Now > > they are out also for SAS 2.5'. > > > > Manufacturers started now to ship some models of laptops with 2.5'' > > 7200 rpm > > > > *GuidoElia* > > > > *HELPPC* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *Da:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Inviato:* lunedì 12 maggio 2008 17.21 > > *A:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Oggetto:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > Ok, maybe the 80's was a stretch, I was kidding. > > > > But 72000 RPM 2.5" disks have been out for a few years I would > > imagine. At least three years I would imagine, since I have been > > working with laptops. Usually you have to buy them separately, as the > > manufacturer does not ship them. > > > > Even 10,000 RPM 2.5" drives are out now. SAS and SATA. > > > > I just got a 15K RPM in my workstation now. > > > > *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 10:12 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > You are wrong . On laptops 7200rpm disks are new! Some brands started > > now to distribute them on laptops and for workstations 10000 rpm SATA > > > > *GuidoElia* > > > > *HELPPC* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *Da:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Inviato:* lunedì 12 maggio 2008 16.48 > > *A:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Oggetto:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > I never buy any laptops with 5400 RPM disks. That's so 1980's. I throw > > 7200 in all our laptops, heat has never been a problem. Now, on an > > ultra-portable or tablet, I could see how it could be... But then > > again, there are many 7200 RPM drives that claim they are just as cool > > as 5400 rpm drives... > > > > *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 9:04 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > Doesn't putting in a 7200 spin disk increase the heat factor? I always > > thought that was the reason some laptops come with 5400 spin drives to > > keep the heat down. > > > > Bill Lambert > > > > Concuity > > > > 847-941-9206 > > > > *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:46 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > My wife has a top of the line Sony SZ48 series Vaio. Fantastic machine > > - carbon fibre case, weighs next to nothing, two GPUs. Performance out > > of the box is abysmal. I replaced the drive with a 7200 RPM disk, > > upped the RAM, and tried to remove as much Sony crapware as possible > > (it even comes with its own copy of SQL Server to manage your media - > > because WMP obviously can't do that). Runs a lot better now, but I > > suspect it'll run a lot better with a clean install. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ken > > > > *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Sunday, 11 May 2008 9:22 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > Check out this story: > > > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=429 > > > > It's a perfect example of a manufacturer shipping a Vista machine with > > unacceptable performance. This resulted in a black eye for the > > manufacturer (Sony in this case, but they're not the only ones to do > > this) and a lost customer for the manufacturer and Microsoft alike. > > > > I didn't participate in the Vista beta, but I did grab it as soon as > > it RTM'd. I installed it on my home desktop, which is a modest box > > (Pentium D CPU w/ 2 GB of RAM) I built myself a good year before Vista > > was released. It ran great. Still does. Now, if I could run Vista fine > > on a machine that I built from parts that were never designed to work > > with Vista, why is it that PC manufacturers can't ship brand new > > machines that work as well? > > > > John > > > > *From:* Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:44 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > Hold on there... If an OS requires new drivers and more horsepower... > > we can't blame the new OS? > > > > Oh yes we can. > > > > --Matt ross > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Vista wasn't perfect out of the gate, but it's not the piece of junk > > people think it is, either. A huge reason Vista has a negative image is > > that the hardware OEMs have been releasing buggy drivers for it--if they > > released drivers for it at all--and have been shipping Vista computers > > that either don't have enough horsepower or are bloated with crapware or > > bad drivers (or all three). It all adds up to a bad experience for > > users, and the OS gets the blame. > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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