http://blogs.technet.com/andym/archive/2008/12/04/powerpath-5-2-and-mpio
-causing-npp-leak.aspx

 

You could downgrade, but it was recommened to me since we are using DMX
based storage to upgrade to Powerpath V5.3 with the new MPIO.sys driver
1.23 accordingly ( Came straight from a T3 Lead on the performance team
that has been troubleshooting this exact problems for a while and
authored some of the Microsoft KB Articles accordingly.)  There is a
possibility that V 5.1 is also an issue, you would have to take a look
at the MPIO.sys driver ( possible V1.21?) with the V5.1 Powerpath might
still be an issue. My suggestion would be to re-engage with your SAN
maintence folks, and look at testing the new V5.3 with the new MPIO.sys
driver accordingly, and see if you can fore-go a Back-rev of the
MPIO.sys driver, and go to the latest one. 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

________________________________

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: For those that use multipathing solutions with your servers
NON Paged memory pool leak

 

Is there any documentation indicating PowerPath ver 5.1 is affected?
We're in the process of performing our annual SAN Maintenance Service
through Dell and their recommendation, based on their analysis of our SP
Collects from our EMC CX700s, was to downgrade any hosts running Power
Path 5.2 to ver 5.1. 

 

- Sean

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org>
wrote:

I can tell you if you are using EMC Powerpath, I would recommend if at
all possible moving up to V 5.3 from V5.1 or V5.2 accordingly. From the
Tier 3 Performance team lead I spoke with yesterday who wrote the KB
articles and has been dealing with the various vendors on getting the
MPIO.sys updated to deal with the NPP leak, the following MPIO.sys
should fix the issues seen in 1.21 and 1.22 of the MPIO.sys. 

 

The file is MPIO.sys, and its version is 1.23.3790.2451 and was
distributed by Microsoft, and is apart of the EMC Powerpath V5.3
package. 

 

As for other vendors, you can see what version of the multipathing DLL"s
you are using with Process Explorer, Enable Lower Pane View and pick
DLL's to show, then click on the system process and look at what is
loaded on your system, it should spell it out for you accordingly. 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

________________________________

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:33 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For those that use multipathing solutions with your servers
NON Paged memory pool leak

 

Yeah - here is the KB on the bug

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961640

 

 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For those that use multipathing solutions with your servers
NON Paged memory pool leak

 

Yeah, usually the first thing I've notice is that when you RDP to a
system and it kicks you back to the logon screen with no error, but no
connect.  You can go back to the server and log on just fine, and a
reboot would clear the problem.  On file servers we also get people that
start to get strange "out of quota" messages, but then they can
reconnect in a minute and things work.

 

Am I correct in reading this is a WS03 issue and not WS08?  There is no
newer ISCSI initiator (yet) for WS08.  We finally have our new
Equallogic PS6000s online with a new WS08 failover cluster using MPIO
and I want to make sure this isn't going to affect us.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For those that use multipathing solutions with your servers
NON Paged memory pool leak

 

There are also issues with HP and probably the other major vendors in
this space. There was a bug in the MS library they are all linked to.

 

A lot of things can happen aside from that symptom below when you run
out of nonpaged pool. A good indicator is if you see the SRV events
(2019 or 202, I forget which one) saying you're out. Machines can hang,
apps can stop working, etc. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
<http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/> 

Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
<https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian> 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: For those that use multipathing solutions with your servers NON
Paged memory pool leak

 

All, 

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/317378.htm 

http://blogs.technet.com/andym/archive/2008/12/04/powerpath-5-2-and-mpio
-causing-npp-leak.aspx

 

The culprit in EMC land is the 5.2 and 5.2 SP1 PowerPath Drivers (
MPIO.sys of 1.22.3790.2358) and the EMCMPIO.sys of 5.2.1.6 (5.2 SP1)

 

The fix: Move up to EMC multipath drivers Version 5.3 which will load
Microsoft's MPIO.sys updated to 1.23.3790.2451 which seems for the time
being to address the Non-Page Memory Pool leak, this was driving one of
my Exchange 2003 SP2 2-node clusters insane over the last few months, it
was discovered if the NON-Paged Memory counter you see on the Task
manager gets about 106-108MB for a X86 32bit system, the http service
for the Exchange Cluster will fail, and cause the Exchange group to fail
because the resource is marked to affect the group. 

 

HTH with some folks out there, 

 

Z

 

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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