im assembling a box for nuke, resolve and 3d. it is not a render node, i
need the faster interactivity of the i7.
is nuke going to be optimised for multi threading any time soon?
thanks


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Nathan Rusch <[email protected]>
wrote:

>   Nuke's 3D system is archaic (read: single-threaded), so the poor 3D
> performance isn't too surprising. My instinct is that the performance
> differences you're seeing are probably due to the i7's higher clock
> combined with scripts that aren't optimal test cases for pure threaded
> rendering. There are still plenty of nodes in Nuke that will prevent it
> from taking advantage of the threading potential of modern hardware if they
> exist in your script.
>
> If you're assembling render node hardware, I wouldn't worry about Nuke in
> your decision-making process, as the render times for Nuke scripts will
> almost always pale in comparison to those of 3D renders.
>
> -Nathan
>
>
>  *From:* itai bachar <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2014 9:22 AM
> *To:* Nuke user discussion <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nuke-users] (no subject)
>
>     Ive tried extensively with regular and m16,
> the m16 sheds about 15-20% of render time, getting the dual xeon slightly
> closer to the i7.
> Another oddity, i tried displacement, with an imported obj, the i7 took 4
> minutes to render the scene,
> the -m16 xeon took 12 (twelve) minutes, and the regular (32 threads) took
> a relaxed 15 minutes approach.
> I thought maybe the imported obj is difficult for a xeon processor, so i
> did a test with a built in nuke sphere,
> displaced it a bit with local noise node, and the i7 took 8 minutes and
> the -m16 xeon a leisurely 19 minutes.
> so, it seems to me that nuke is not liking xeon processors.
> thats a big shame, because i need these for 3d rendering...:-(
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Randy Little <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> yes -m 16  but try 14 or 15 and see if that frees up cpu for system
>> calls.  Worth a try.
>>
>>  Randy S. Little
>> http://www.rslittle.com/
>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:25 AM, itai bachar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  the machine has 2 xeon e5 2689's, 8 cores each.
>>> so that's 16 physical cores,
>>> should I do -m 16?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Deke Kincaid <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi itai
>>>>
>>>> Is that 16 physical or virtual cores?  If it's virtual then you should
>>>> do it for the physical ones -m 8.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 8, 2014, itai bachar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Ok I checked with the xeons on 16 threads only,
>>>>> now they lag behind the i7 for 10-12% only...
>>>>> this is very weird.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM, itai bachar <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  sorry guys for the hebrew, that was meant for Ron,
>>>>>> Thanks for the tips, i'll test it with -m 16 cores and see what
>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, itai bachar <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  תודה.
>>>>>>> דה פאונדרי לא שמעו על WINDOWS?
>>>>>>> זה די נפוץ...
>>>>>>> לא מצליח להתחבר למיילינג ניוז הזה.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Ron Ganbar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows in this case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neil Scholes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Hi Ron,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm curious is that on linux? Thinking about new machine so
>>>>>>>>> processor choice is on my mind......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Dec 2014, at 20:07, Ron Ganbar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I would expect a piece of software like Nuke to, well, push and
>>>>>>>>> make use of everything available. It really feels odd to me that The
>>>>>>>>> Foundry aren't taking care of this.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tips. I'll pass them on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Randy Little <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah or just hit x in the dag and type "set threads"   see if its
>>>>>>>>>> using virtual cores.  If it is try "set threads (physical cores)"   
>>>>>>>>>> so "set
>>>>>>>>>> threads 16"  if thats even the case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Randy S. Little
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rslittle.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Nathan Rusch <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Nuke has (always had?) performance problems on machines with
>>>>>>>>>>> many virtual cores. First thing I would try is running Nuke with 
>>>>>>>>>>> `-m 16` on
>>>>>>>>>>> the Xeon box.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Nathan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  *From:* Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 07, 2014 6:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Nuke user discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Nuke-users] (no subject)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Hey guys
>>>>>>>>>>> A friend is testing a dual Xeon e5 2689 64GB gtx970 vs his old
>>>>>>>>>>> i7 3930K 32GB gtx680, (both reading/writing to a same spec ssd 
>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>> windows).
>>>>>>>>>>> Just so happens that the old single cpu pc is faster at
>>>>>>>>>>> rendering, around 5%-30% than the dual xeon machine. Interactivity 
>>>>>>>>>>> is also
>>>>>>>>>>> slightly faster on the i7. (the xeon redraws a bit slower when you 
>>>>>>>>>>> go to a
>>>>>>>>>>> new frame on the timeline).
>>>>>>>>>>> When rendering in Maya, he gets the expected 105-115% speed gain
>>>>>>>>>>> (more than twice as fast) from the xeon's.
>>>>>>>>>>> Seems very odd. How come? Anything we're missing here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
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