Ok thanks Marc for explaining  the structure .     What you say makes sense.    
While I believe that the owners /residents in OBS need to be alert , report and 
be pro- active , the point is we work and are extremely busy with our lives to 
just keep abreast of the demands of life ,  and that is why we  secure our 
homes at a huge cost , constantly upgrading  it  , pay for monitoring , pay for 
armed response and then also pay for OBSID , to perform tasks that one would 
expect from the  controlling bodies  eg. municipal or government to perform  ( 
which we know by now has just deteriorated to the extent that we need to take 
control of it ourselves.)         

 

For that reason , OBSNW /OBSID   (whatever)  was established to make sure we 
get  security to perform the job which SAPS should have been in control of  , 
if we lived in a normal society .    So,  as we pay for such services in 
addition to our rates and taxes , we need to make sure that the people who are 
in fact employed to do this task are competent and  are here to serve us and 
stop this crime affecting us the way it does.   

 

We have all witnessed the sleeping guards, the guards who  walk as though they 
are more interested in their cell phones , than in what is going on around 
them.    What of course is a major problem is that our crime  all over the 
country , is totally out of control on every level , so it is even more 
important to make sure we get value for what we pay for , as it  grossly 
affects us.       

 

I like your suggestion ,   which is very positive :    What I think we have to 
work on, is to get the right affordable mix of patrollers on foot, on bike and 
silent scooter, to watch and report, supported by the community ONW PLUS a 
well- trained and motivated locally based “flying squad’' security pair, who 
can arrest and work with police, as a police / security trained pair, supported 
by police and with good local tracking system that catches the criminals on 
their escape route, so every incident ends in an arrest and a conviction! I 
believe OBSID IS going for it.   That means , there is  recognition of what is 
wrong  in the current system  and   plans are being made to drastically improve 
on what we have.       Thugs have become extremely  comfortable with this lack 
of security performance in OBS and are  therefore having a fantastic time 
robbing and stealing us , but this can end up tragically too, as we know.    We 
 need a no – tolerance approach to  crime in our community  , and therefore if 
we have guards that are not fulfilling that function , we will remain at risk, 
on top of wasting our funds at the same time.      Thugs thrive on weakness. !  
   

 

I realize the importance of the community taking control, being pro- active  
and that is very good, but it is not always possible to have ears and eyes all 
over the show and the reason why we are paying  outsiders  to perform that task 
to the best of their ability  (not half measuredly ! )  , which we cannot cope 
with.    

 

I am happy to know there is recognition of where it should  improve to take 
back OBS , for the residents and not the thugs  to enjoy. !.    

 

Have a great and safe weekend !

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marc 
Turok
Sent: 14 August 2015 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: Armed Robbery Obs Mini Cafe Station Road Tonight

 

I think Annemarie has got some facts wrong.

I believe OBSID started with ADT then Vetus Schola and now have Securitas 
acting on their behalf but is now regaining control over the performance rather 
than leaving it to the agents.

Its not helping if we spend large sums to OBSID who pays another firm to employ 
patrollers  who are not empowered to do police work and then people criticise 
because we expect them to act as trained police which they are not.

 

What I think we have to work on, is to get the right affordable mix of 
patrollers on foot, on bike and silent scooter, to watch and report, supported 
by the community ONW PLUS a well trained and motivated locally based “flying 
squad’' security pair, who can arrest and work with police, as a police / 
security trained pair, supported by police and with good local tracking system 
that catches the criminals on their escape route, so every incident ends in an 
arrest and a conviction! I believe OBSID IS going for it. Marc

 

 

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