Jenny - I think there is still a little confusion. Can people really think ONW volunteers are paid?
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Jenny Calder <jennycald...@gmail.com> wrote: > Annemarie, ONW is not part of OBSID but we all work together for the > safety of all. ONW is made up of volunteers who freely give their time to > help to ensure the safety of all. > > > > On 8/14/2015 5:35 PM, Annemarie du Bois wrote: > > Ok thanks Marc for explaining the structure . What you say makes > sense. While I believe that the owners /residents in OBS need to be > alert , report and be pro- active , the point is we work and are extremely > busy with our lives to just keep abreast of the demands of life , and that > is why we secure our homes at a huge cost , constantly upgrading it , > pay for monitoring , pay for armed response and then also pay for OBSID , > to perform tasks that one would expect from the controlling bodies eg. > municipal or government to perform ( which we know by now has just > deteriorated to the extent that we need to take control of it ourselves.) > > > > > For that reason , OBSNW /OBSID (whatever) was established to make sure > we get security to perform the job which SAPS should have been in control > of , if we lived in a normal society . So, as we pay for such services > in addition to our rates and taxes , we need to make sure that the people > who are in fact employed to do this task are competent and are here to > serve us and stop this crime affecting us the way it does. > > > > We have all witnessed the sleeping guards, the guards who walk as though > they are more interested in their cell phones , than in what is going on > around them. What of course is a major problem is that our crime all > over the country , is totally out of control on every level , so it is even > more important to make sure we get value for what we pay for , as it > grossly affects us. > > > > I like your suggestion , which is very positive : What I think we > have to work on, is to get the right affordable mix of patrollers on foot, > on bike and silent scooter, to watch and report, supported by the community > ONW PLUS a well- trained and motivated locally based “flying squad’' > security pair, who can arrest and work with police, as a police / security > trained pair, supported by police and with good local tracking system that > catches the criminals on their escape route, so every incident ends in an > arrest and a conviction! I believe OBSID IS going for it. That means , > there is recognition of what is wrong in the current system and plans > are being made to drastically improve on what we have. Thugs have > become extremely comfortable with this lack of security performance in OBS > and are therefore having a fantastic time robbing and stealing us , but > this can end up tragically too, as we know. We need a no – tolerance > approach to crime in our community , and therefore if we have guards that > are not fulfilling that function , we will remain at risk, on top of > wasting our funds at the same time. Thugs thrive on weakness. ! > > > > I realize the importance of the community taking control, being pro- > active and that is very good, but it is not always possible to have ears > and eyes all over the show and the reason why we are paying outsiders to > perform that task to the best of their ability (not half measuredly ! ) , > which we cannot cope with. > > > > I am happy to know there is recognition of where it should improve to > take back OBS , for the residents and not the thugs to enjoy. !. > > > > Have a great and safe weekend ! > > > > *From:* obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com > <obsnw@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Marc Turok > *Sent:* 14 August 2015 12:13 PM > *To:* obsnw@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [obsnw] Re: Armed Robbery Obs Mini Cafe Station Road > Tonight > > > > I think Annemarie has got some facts wrong. > > I believe OBSID started with ADT then Vetus Schola and now have Securitas > acting on their behalf but is now regaining control over the performance > rather than leaving it to the agents. > > Its not helping if we spend large sums to OBSID who pays another firm to > employ patrollers who are not empowered to do police work and then people > criticise because we expect them to act as trained police which they are > not. > > > > What I think we have to work on, is to get the right affordable mix of > patrollers on foot, on bike and silent scooter, to watch and report, > supported by the community ONW PLUS a well trained and motivated locally > based “flying squad’' security pair, who can arrest and work with police, > as a police / security trained pair, supported by police and with good > local tracking system that catches the criminals on their escape route, so > every incident ends in an arrest and a conviction! 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