Re: [ogf-d20-l] Creatures lacking stats

[Chad Thornton]

    Undead creatures use their Charisma modifier for Concentration.  I don't
know exactly where it says this but it is either in the DMG or MM.

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From: "Geoffrey McVey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,

This is more of a D&D question, but since I'm assuming that the monster
guidelines from the MM are going to be included in the SRD, I hope it's on
topic.  In the MM section on attributes, the rules mention that a creature
without a Constitution score always fails Con checks.  Does this mean, say,
that nudging a lich will *always* cause it to lose a spell (i.e., fail its
Concentration roll)?  Can anyone think of circumstances in which a Con-less
creature would need to make a Con check, where it would make sense for that
check to fail automatically?  The only examples I can think of have to do
with fatigue, holding one's breath, and so on -- none of which really seem
to apply to undead.

Any ideas?

-Geoffrey