On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 08/02/2011 02:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>> Am 08/02/2011 03:00 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 01:00 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 August 2011 23:42, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>     wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The ASF does not care what your download page looks like as long as
>>>>>>>> you use the CGI scripts to ensure that an appropriate mirror site is
>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hm, let's see how independent the download thing really will be. ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why don't you mock-up 9in the CMS) what you want the download page to
>>>>>> look like, without linking it in from elsewhere. Once that is done
>>>>>> then we can look at making the download.cgi work the way you want it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good idea. Will do so.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a script for downloading the download web source from the kenai
>>>> svn.
>>>> 
>>>> If I download the complete AOOo svn tree particularly
>>>> ooo/trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh
>>>> 
>>>> You can run that script like so:
>>>> 
>>>> $ ../trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh ../trunk/tools/dev/web-list.txt .
>>>> 
>>>> You then get this (along with all the sub-projects in the web-list.txt)
>>>> 
>>>> download dave$ ls -1
>>>> 2.4.3
>>>> all_beta.html
>>>> all_rc.html
>>>> cachedimages
>>>> common
>>>> contribute.html
>>>> download.js
>>>> download2.js
>>>> download_bouncer.js
>>>> download_mirrorbrain.js
>>>> exceptions.css
>>>> globalvars.js
>>>> index.html
>>>> languages.js
>>>> md5sums
>>>> next
>>>> notes.html
>>>> other.html
>>>> print_tables.js
>>>> robots.txt
>>>> sdk
>>>> sdk.html
>>>> source
>>>> stable.html
>>>> test
>>>> 
>>>> So it's there and it is a matter of wrapping it properly.
>>> 
>>> I don't know what you mean with "wrapping". It's working and with adjustment
>>> of CSS (header, footer, graphics, etc.) and underlaying mirror structure it
>>> should run also for Apache.
>>>> 
>>>> Should we start by committing the download site as a subsite of our
>>>> incubator project?
>>> 
>>> The websites inside the incubator project should be developer-oriented. But
>>> the download is nearly 100% user-related, so I would like to see this
>>> content to be continued on "www.openoffice.org" and not directly in a Apache
>>> domain.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think the point is this:  Even as we preserve the content of the
>> OpenOffice.org website, we're not going to be re-hosting the Mercurial
>> repositories on OO.o.  Everything that was formerly in Mercurial will
>> need to migrate somewhere else, either SVN at Apache or to Hg at
>> Apache-Extras.   The future OO.o website, hosted by Apache will have
>> its source files checked into SVN at Apache.  We'd have a mechanism to
>> publish these files, on modification, to the right directory for the
>> web server.
>> 
>> We'll need a directory structure in SVN that reflects the fact that
>> we'll be storing source files for two websites there.  This is not
>> hard.
> 
> Right. In the SVN repo we have to make the separation of the 2 domains 
> visible.'

Yes that is very true, but there is a problem. We only have the one incubator 
site in the Apache CMS and we need to do some experimental conversions. Let's 
mix in with our Incubator site two initial projects - www and download - as 
subdirectories so we can get started with headers and footers and modifying the 
CMS build to handle the OOo site pages from Kenai.

We can then get started with branding as well.

Later we can change the svn structure to the one that allows publishing of 
multiple sites in Apache. We'll need to discuss the publishing of the 
openoffice domains using the Apache CMS with Infrastructure.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> At least this separation will be established from my point of view.
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> We still need someone to work with infra@ to ensure the mirror network
>>>>>> can cope with the load, but I'm sure that will be handled in good
>>>>>> time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus

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