On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > A use case to consider, for future possibilities. What would be > required to do this well, not from a web page, but inside the > OpenOffice application? So patches, extensions, templates, even > upgrades initiated from within the app itself, without launching a > browser? > > Is that doable? If the geo location is done via IP address, and there > is a REST API for finding the closest mirrors, and that returns data > in XML or JSON, that it should be universally consumable.
I don't see any technical trouble. Once we establish the way we interact with the download mirrors than simple requests can be made using an HTTPClient or FTPClient library. Maybe Apache HttpClient - http://hc.apache.org/ Regards, Dave > > -Rob > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Kay, >> >> On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 08/02/2011 09:05 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>> >>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am 08/02/2011 04:53 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 02:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Marcus >>>>>>>> (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 03:00 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 01:00 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 August 2011 23:42, Marcus >>>>>>>>>>>> (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ASF does not care what your download page >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks like as long as you use the CGI scripts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that an appropriate mirror site is used. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hm, let's see how independent the download thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> really will be. ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you mock-up 9in the CMS) what you want the >>>>>>>>>>>> download page to look like, without linking it in >>>>>>>>>>>> from elsewhere. Once that is done then we can look at >>>>>>>>>>>> making the download.cgi work the way you want it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. Will do so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a script for downloading the download web source >>>>>>>>>> from the kenai svn. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I download the complete AOOo svn tree particularly >>>>>>>>>> ooo/trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can run that script like so: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ ../trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh >>>>>>>>>> ../trunk/tools/dev/web-list.txt . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You then get this (along with all the sub-projects in the >>>>>>>>>> web-list.txt) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> download dave$ ls -1 2.4.3 all_beta.html all_rc.html >>>>>>>>>> cachedimages common contribute.html download.js >>>>>>>>>> download2.js download_bouncer.js download_mirrorbrain.js >>>>>>>>>> exceptions.css globalvars.js index.html languages.js >>>>>>>>>> md5sums next notes.html other.html print_tables.js >>>>>>>>>> robots.txt sdk sdk.html source stable.html test >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it's there and it is a matter of wrapping it >>>>>>>>>> properly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know what you mean with "wrapping". It's working >>>>>>>>> and with adjustment of CSS (header, footer, graphics, etc.) >>>>>>>>> and underlaying mirror structure it should run also for >>>>>>>>> Apache. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Should we start by committing the download site as a >>>>>>>>>> subsite of our incubator project? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The websites inside the incubator project should be >>>>>>>>> developer-oriented. But the download is nearly 100% >>>>>>>>> user-related, so I would like to see this content to be >>>>>>>>> continued on "www.openoffice.org" and not directly in a >>>>>>>>> Apache domain. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the point is this: Even as we preserve the content >>>>>>>> of the OpenOffice.org website, we're not going to be >>>>>>>> re-hosting the Mercurial repositories on OO.o. Everything >>>>>>>> that was formerly in Mercurial will need to migrate somewhere >>>>>>>> else, either SVN at Apache or to Hg at Apache-Extras. The >>>>>>>> future OO.o website, hosted by Apache will have its source >>>>>>>> files checked into SVN at Apache. We'd have a mechanism to >>>>>>>> publish these files, on modification, to the right directory >>>>>>>> for the web server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We'll need a directory structure in SVN that reflects the >>>>>>>> fact that we'll be storing source files for two websites >>>>>>>> there. This is not hard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right. In the SVN repo we have to make the separation of the 2 >>>>>>> domains visible.' >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes that is very true, but there is a problem. We only have the >>>>>> one incubator site in the Apache CMS and we need to do some >>>>>> experimental conversions. Let's mix in with our Incubator site >>>>>> two initial projects - www and download - as subdirectories so we >>>>>> can get started with headers and footers and modifying the CMS >>>>>> build to handle the OOo site pages from Kenai. >>>>> >>>>> OK, no problem to migratethe webpages into the incubator project. >>>>> Tehn we can "play" a bit with the content to see how it behaves. >>>>> >>>>>> We can then get started with branding as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later we can change the svn structure to the one that allows >>>>>> publishing of multiple sites in Apache. We'll need to discuss the >>>>>> publishing of the openoffice domains using the Apache CMS with >>>>>> Infrastructure. >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>> >>>> I have committed the download project to the AOOo svn. No headers and >>>> footers yet, but it is now available for "play" >>>> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/download/index.html >>> >>> good start! >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/www/index.html >> >> Will be there soon. I think I committed more at once than I should. There is >> a lot of deadwood there that should be removed. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >>> >>>> >>>> To get headers and footers a template is needed and the view.pm will >>>> need adjustment. >>>> >>>> See >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html#directory_layout >>>> >>>> Regards, Dave >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> At least this separation will be established from my point >>>>>>>>> of view. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We still need someone to work with infra@ to ensure >>>>>>>>>>>> the mirror network can cope with the load, but I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> sure that will be handled in good time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> MzK >>> >>> "If you can keep your head when all others around you >>> are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand >>> the situation!" >>> -- Unknown >> >>
