On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 08/02/2011 04:53 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 08/02/2011 02:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>   wrote:
>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 03:00 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 01:00 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1 August 2011 23:42, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The ASF does not care what your download page looks like as long as
>>>>>>>>>> you use the CGI scripts to ensure that an appropriate mirror site is
>>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hm, let's see how independent the download thing really will be. ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why don't you mock-up 9in the CMS) what you want the download page to
>>>>>>>> look like, without linking it in from elsewhere. Once that is done
>>>>>>>> then we can look at making the download.cgi work the way you want it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good idea. Will do so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a script for downloading the download web source from the kenai
>>>>>> svn.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I download the complete AOOo svn tree particularly
>>>>>> ooo/trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can run that script like so:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ ../trunk/tools/dev/fetch-all-web.sh ../trunk/tools/dev/web-list.txt .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You then get this (along with all the sub-projects in the web-list.txt)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> download dave$ ls -1
>>>>>> 2.4.3
>>>>>> all_beta.html
>>>>>> all_rc.html
>>>>>> cachedimages
>>>>>> common
>>>>>> contribute.html
>>>>>> download.js
>>>>>> download2.js
>>>>>> download_bouncer.js
>>>>>> download_mirrorbrain.js
>>>>>> exceptions.css
>>>>>> globalvars.js
>>>>>> index.html
>>>>>> languages.js
>>>>>> md5sums
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> notes.html
>>>>>> other.html
>>>>>> print_tables.js
>>>>>> robots.txt
>>>>>> sdk
>>>>>> sdk.html
>>>>>> source
>>>>>> stable.html
>>>>>> test
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it's there and it is a matter of wrapping it properly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know what you mean with "wrapping". It's working and with 
>>>>> adjustment
>>>>> of CSS (header, footer, graphics, etc.) and underlaying mirror structure 
>>>>> it
>>>>> should run also for Apache.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should we start by committing the download site as a subsite of our
>>>>>> incubator project?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The websites inside the incubator project should be developer-oriented. 
>>>>> But
>>>>> the download is nearly 100% user-related, so I would like to see this
>>>>> content to be continued on "www.openoffice.org" and not directly in a 
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> domain.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think the point is this:  Even as we preserve the content of the
>>>> OpenOffice.org website, we're not going to be re-hosting the Mercurial
>>>> repositories on OO.o.  Everything that was formerly in Mercurial will
>>>> need to migrate somewhere else, either SVN at Apache or to Hg at
>>>> Apache-Extras.   The future OO.o website, hosted by Apache will have
>>>> its source files checked into SVN at Apache.  We'd have a mechanism to
>>>> publish these files, on modification, to the right directory for the
>>>> web server.
>>>> 
>>>> We'll need a directory structure in SVN that reflects the fact that
>>>> we'll be storing source files for two websites there.  This is not
>>>> hard.
>>> 
>>> Right. In the SVN repo we have to make the separation of the 2 domains 
>>> visible.'
>> 
>> Yes that is very true, but there is a problem. We only have the one 
>> incubator site in the Apache CMS and we need to do some experimental 
>> conversions. Let's mix in with our Incubator site two initial projects - www 
>> and download - as subdirectories so we can get started with headers and 
>> footers and modifying the CMS build to handle the OOo site pages from Kenai.
> 
> OK, no problem to migratethe webpages into the incubator project. Tehn we can 
> "play" a bit with the content to see how it behaves.
> 
>> We can then get started with branding as well.
>> 
>> Later we can change the svn structure to the one that allows publishing of 
>> multiple sites in Apache. We'll need to discuss the publishing of the 
>> openoffice domains using the Apache CMS with Infrastructure.
> 
> +1

I have committed the download project to the AOOo svn. No headers and footers 
yet, but it is now available for "play"

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/download/index.html

To get headers and footers a template is needed and the view.pm will need 
adjustment.

See 
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html#directory_layout

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>>>> At least this separation will be established from my point of view.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We still need someone to work with infra@ to ensure the mirror network
>>>>>>>> can cope with the load, but I'm sure that will be handled in good
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marcus

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