In the absence of a documented statement, that de SoC is dead and/or a DoD is documented, the SoC is supposed to be not-dead. And this supposition can lead to a documented statement that the SoC is supposed to be alive.
"alive equals not-dead" Gerard Freriks +31 620347088 gf...@luna.nl <mailto:gf...@luna.nl> > On 5 jan. 2016, at 09:16, Gerard Freriks (privé) <gf...@luna.nl> wrote: > > Colleagues, > > I read reactions that indicate that sometimes you seem to model reality from > the point of view of the living subject, the Subject of Care. > And other times you seem to model statements by an author irrespective of the > reality the SoC is in. > > In the world of EHR’s I (and the method called SIAMM) take the point of view > that the EHR is about documenting statements by an author about a subject of > care. > These statements are subjective and not necessarily represent the real state > of the SoC; it is a subjective statement that is real and true for the author > only at that point in time. > > The Date of Birth and Date of Death in the demographics are therefor > subjective statements documented by an author at that point it time, > A SoC with a DoB and not a DoD is supposed to be alive. > > > You must decide what you are modeling using archetypes. > > > Gerard Freriks > +31 620347088 > gf...@luna.nl <mailto:gf...@luna.nl> >> On 5 jan. 2016, at 09:03, Karsten Hilbert <karsten.hilb...@gmx.net >> <mailto:karsten.hilb...@gmx.net>> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 07:19:19AM +0000, Heather Leslie wrote: >> >>> The notion of a patient being alive is only possible while they are in the >>> room with you. As soon as they walk out the door they could drop dead. >>> >>> So this adds a further complication. From a pure modelling point of view: >>> >>> * the only reliable status is to record if a patient is dead, maybe >>> alongside date of death, cause of death etc - ie the archetype of death >>> that contains clinically relevant data! >>> >>> * for querying - if the patient is not recorded as being known as >>> dead or deceased, then we assume either the patient is still alive or that >>> their status is unknown. >>> >>> I suspect that the reality is that many current systems do have an alive vs >>> dead status of some sort - would anyone like to confirm or deny? >> >> GNUmed models >> >> date-of-birth >> date-of-death >> >> and assums alive while the latter is NULL. Heuristics shows a >> warning when the difference goes beyond 130 years. >> >> Karsten >> -- >> GPG key ID E4071346 @ eu.pool.sks-keyservers.net >> <http://eu.pool.sks-keyservers.net/> >> E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-clinical mailing list >> openEHR-clinical@lists.openehr.org >> <mailto:openEHR-clinical@lists.openehr.org> >> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical@lists.openehr.org > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org
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