Sam Heard wrote: > Dave > > I am not familiar with Schematron. I have had a look on the web, at > some tutorials etc - and it is available in the Oxygen editor that I > use. Generally the openEHR approach has been to apply archetypes to > the reference model in memory. This works well and is proven. > > What you are proposing, as far as I can see, might lead to a schema > for a composition - where the schema met both the archetype > constraints and the reference model schema. > > It will be relatively easy to test this with something like the blood > pressure archetype. At the moment I can only give you XML data that > fit the RM schema - the archetype constraints are only expressed in > our in memory objects. I enclose the archetype and data for your > information. > > If we could spit out a schema based on a template (a composition built > from a set of archetypes) and express the constraints in the > archetype, this would be well received. It would mean that standard > compositions, like a discharge summary or a laboratory report, could > be expressed as XML schema + Schematron. > > I believe this is worth investigating.
I'll check into this as time permits but would appreciate it if others do the same. It seems to me that the Schematron could be used to express an ADL constraint although perhaps not quite as elegantly. Dave > > Cheers, Sam > > David W. Forslund wrote: > >> What I would like to do is automatically translate from an ADL >> description >> to a schematron description. Hopefully, this is semantically possible. >> >> Dave >> On Tue, March 8, 2005 5:58 pm, Sam Heard said: >> >>> David W. Forslund >>> >>> Good to see you sniffing around! The key issue for us in ADL is that >>> Eiffel is not UNICODE compliant. There will be a number of Java parsers >>> soon, and I hope a JAVA archetype editor. >>> >>> I am interested in what you can do with Schematron as well as another >>> implementation route....keep me up to speed. >>> >>> Cheers, Sam >>> >>>> I've been looking at schematron for doing the "equivalent" of >>>> archetype >>>> in >>>> a more general situation, particularly since there as been no ADL >>>> parser >>>> available in Java. Schematron seems to be reasonably popular for >>>> enforcing rules for XML data structures and there is a variety of >>>> software >>>> available for using it. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> On Tue, March 8, 2005 4:28 am, Gavin Brelstaff said: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rahil Qamar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alfonso >>>>>> >>>>>> I can answer one of your questions for certain and am not very sure >>>>>> about another one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alfonso Mata wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - Is it possible to obtain a XML-Schema based on 13606 from an ADL >>>>>>> file? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You can obtain an XML representation of the ADL Archetype from the >>>>>> Archetype Editor but not an XML Schema. Atleast not at the moment. >>>>>> However Im trying to write out a schema based on the UML Archetype >>>>>> Object Model. Its not proving to be an easy task is all I can say ! >>>>>> I've >>>>>> done one version of the schema but its far from perfect to >>>>>> generate a >>>>>> sensible XML. If you are interested in doing some work on this we >>>>>> could >>>>>> collaborate. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are some less heavy ways of doing XML rule checking that >>>>> avoid most of the irrational intricacies of the W3C Schema. >>>>> Did you ever explore >>>>> Jim Clark's RelaxNG for schema validation of XML structures, >>>>> and >>>>> Schematron for rules involving Co-occurance relationships. >>>>> >>>>> That might be a way to go. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gavin Brelstaff - BioMedical Area, CRS4 in Sardinia >>>>> Loc. Pixina Manna Edificio 1, >>>>> C.P. n.25, 09010 Pula (CA) Italy. >>>>> Email: gjb at crs4.it Phone:+39.070.9250.312 Fax:+39.070.9250.216 >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> If you have any questions about using this list, >>>>> please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> - >>> If you have any questions about using this list, >>> please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > - If you have any questions about using this list, please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org
