If a Java window appears in less than half a second there is no point in adding 
the complexity of a native splash screen.

Scott

> On Jun 4, 2018, at 5:13 AM, Tom Schindl <tom.schi...@bestsolution.at> wrote:
> 
> A splash screen has to be that instant that it IMHO makes no sense to
> time how long it takes to get the JVM and JavaFX up and running because
> it can never be as instant as a splash has to show up.
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On 04.06.18 01:06, Scott Palmer wrote:
>> Has anyone actually timed how long it takes to get a Java window on screen? 
>> I don’t think the delay is long enough to bother with a splash screen these 
>> days. 
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 4:22 AM, Tom Schindl <tom.schi...@bestsolution.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's why I requested that since a long time from the packager because
>>> a splash has to be part of the native launcher created.
>>> 
>>> The Eclipse-RCP-Launcher does exactly the right thing:
>>> * Show a static image (IIRC they use bmp)
>>> * Once the VM and UI-Toolkit is up replace that image with a window (SWT
>>> calls it Shell) so that you can go interactive showing videos,
>>> a progressbar, ...
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>>> On 03.06.18 10:11, Mario Ivankovits wrote:
>>>> A preloader/splash-screen will/should also hide the JVM startup time.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mario
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 03.06.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Tom Schindl <tom.schi...@bestsolution.at>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 01.06.18 19:42, Johan Vos wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not saying a preloader is really a requirement, but I know of a few
>>>>>> applications that are using it and benefiting from it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The preloader functionality is more than just a splash screen, and I see
>>>>>> this valuable for instance when static initializers of classes that are
>>>>>> used in the main class may take a lot of time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then I'd argue that you can easily refactor your main-class ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>> 

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