On 3/21/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Tribble wrote:
> > Well, it's not *just* OpenSSL, but that was the main topic in the
< snippage >
> Which is why it is External and why it is currently in /usr/sfw.
>

Sorry for wading in at this late point but I have been reading and
reading this thread with interest.  The one thought that rattles about
in my brain is "what does the standard say?".

There is a UNIX standard isn't there?  Wasn't there at some point a
standard somewhere in which all UNIX vendors agreed to place
applications that were not part of the core OS into the /opt
filesystem?

Let's look at a few examples :

    IBM/Lotus Domino is a good one.  It installs correctly into /opt/lotus .

    SAP DB Applications go into /opt/sapdb

    All schily utils from Jörg Schilling go into /opt/schily in SchilliX

Was there a document at some point in history ( this is UNIX and it
has tons of history ) called the FSSTD or was it FHS ?

    http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
    ( this may be a Linux animal however )

In any case we seem to have a few guidelines that no one breaks.  The
X11 kit is always dropped into /usr/X11R6 correctly.  Why not into
/usr/sfw/X11R6 ? Or perhaps /usr/openwin/X11R6 ?  Most likely this
would be seen as blatant snubbing of ones nose at the UNIX standards. 
I know that all of the software from Blastwave goes into /opt/csw and
that includes all libraries.  In the SchilliX world I see the latest
rendition of star ( star 1.5a73 ) is firmly planted in /usr/bin/star
as a symlink to /opt/schily/bin/star  which is in turn a symlink to
/opt/schily/bin/star_fat.  So even in his own distro Jörg tried to
stay true to the standard.  If there is one.

Is there a question coming anytime soon ?   Yes.  Three of them.

    (1) Is there a UNIX standard ?  ( this is just yes or no )

    (2) What is the UNIX standard?

    (3) Do we respect that standard ?  ( Is this a yes or no ? )

I would think that a spec document or a standard document would be
helpful.  While the doc may have been written back when Digital UNIX,
HPUX and AIX still had a pulse it may still be applicable today.

Dennis Clarke

ps: AIX may still be alive but in my mind HPUX overdosed on Itanium and then
        fell down in a gutter somewhere and died.
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