On Thursday 01 February 2007 05:19 pm, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Alan DuBoff wrote: > > On Thursday 01 February 2007 03:51 pm, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> How about "Look harder - they've all been in OpenSolaris for a long > >> time"? > > > > Humor me more. Having the software located on the OpenSolaris site > > doesn't mean that it's a part of the project. When you download the > > sources for OpenSolaris today, it does not install X, nor does it GNOME, > > nor does it CUPS, as a case in point. > > Bullshit. There is no one "sources for OpenSolaris" - there's the ON > sources, the X sources, the JDS sources, the SFW sources - all of which > together make up OpenSolaris. No one source can be considered to comprise > all of it, just as you wouldn't say that the tarball you download from > kernel.org makes up all of Debian or Fedora.
Ok, so we throw a bunch of packages on OpenSolaris.org and say they're a part of OpenSolaris. OpenSolaris is not a usable and complete system as it is today, and even if you claim that we have all of these packages available, they're not usable in any way without a lot of work and configuration. But this is where Solaris has traditionally fallen short, installation and configuration, and for those that can manage it have been able to fall in love with it. The average user just wanted to download a distribution, install it, and use it. They come to OpenSolaris thinking it's a distribution, since this is how Sun has marketed it, that they have open sourced Solaris. People associate Solaris with Xorg, <gasp> GNOME, and other pieces such as CUPS, sfw, companion cd, etc... Bullshit is a good description of what the user is left with at the end of the day, if they do install OpenSolaris as we know it today. Most sensible folks install Solaris Express and lay OpenSolaris over the top, so they don't have to figure out how to get the Xorg package you tossed over the firewall to work. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 Engineering - IHV/OEM Group Advocate of Insourcing at Sun, hire people that care about our company! _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
