On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:20 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Sun refusing to make noise doesn't help either. Considering that
> almost
> >every SPARC machine ships with ATI gpus inside, if they really meant
> it,
> >they would have removed it - and launch a campaign of pulling AMD's
> name
> >through the mud for poor co-operation with a partner.
> 
> I'm not sure that is still the case; many of the framebuffers are
> non-ATI.  (We only ever shipped cheap 2D ATI chips, I think)

Actually, you shipped some rebranded 7500 Radeons under another name as
well.

> >I'm surprised that with how AMD treating Sun, after Sun giving them
> >(AMD) a leg up into the server space. A little 'good fellows' meeting
> >and making them realise there is a component of them holding their
> end
> >of the bargin is in order - you scrach my back and I'll scratch
> yours.
> >Lack of scratching on their part means concrete shoes ;-)
> 
> One should not assume that a merger of two companies leads to all
> noses
> pointing in one direction and it becoming "one" company.
> 
> Don't expect the willingness to hand out specs (as AMD does for its
> CPUs)
> and the good working relationship we have with them building servers
> and
> workstations to have any effect on the ATI part of the company.
> 
> It's like Adobe (née MacroMedia) flashplayer vs Acroread for x86[1].

AMD still owns ATI; if AMD management is so incompetant to be unable to
put their foot down and actually establish who is boss, who own's who,
then I think they need to give up, go home and take up an interest in
knitting.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to cut people slack who get paid $100,000+,
if the individuals can't get results they should be fired and someone
with backbone put in the job to drive things forward.
be an amendment to

Matthew

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