On 11-Nov-07, at 1:59 PM, Brandorr wrote: > On Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM, Brandorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 11, 2007 4:30 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing >>>> an >>>>>> IA64/Itanium port >>>>>> of OpenSolaris? >>>>> >>>>> Would that be cool? Why, yes it would! >>>>> >>>>> Would it be a justifiable return on investment? No. >>>>> >>>>> Here's the deal: >>>>> >>>>> who's running IA64? Only two firms, sgi and hp. >>>> >>>> Actually, believe it or not, IA64 seems to have found >>>> a niche with >>>> worldwide Mainframe builders. (excluding IBM). >>>> http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/37050 >>>> 16 >>> >>> 200,000 pieces? That's miserable. >>> >>> Love this quote: >>> "Despite its low profile, RISC-based processing continues to hold >>> between 45 and 50 percent of the market and the revenues are still >>> substantial" >>> >>> Yeah, no kidding, the IA64 based hardware is way, waaay >>> overopriced! When will companies, Sun INCLUDED, finally get it >>> into their head that the days of fat profit margins are GONE. >>> >>> Expensive SILICON DOESN'T SELL. >>> >>> It has to be CHEAP and MASS PRODUCED, or else forget it!!! >> >> While I would agree that the growth is in the commodity spaces, IBM >> has proven time and time again, that mainframes aren't going >> anywhere. >> Do you think Sun, IBM, and HP would still be making this hardware if >> customers weren't still buying it? >> >> I would guess the majority of Fortune 500 corporations still have >> Mainframes in the basement running some hypercritical processes. >> >> Also another interesting trend in Enterprise IT is that most of the >> innovation going is basically reinvention of 30 year old mainframe >> technologies on commodity hardware. ;) (Virtual Machines, >> fiberchannel/isci, JCL, thin-client computing, utility computing, >> high >> availability, throughput computing, etc.) > > That all said there are far most interesting, (IMHO) targets for > porting. Like MIPS and ARM. (I suggest these if we wish to compete > with Linux in the high volume embedded space. e.g. Linksys routers, > smartphones, toasters...) ;)
I'm sure that part of the reason Solaris doesn't do well embedded is the massive resource requirements. When you're talking enterprise computing, 512M of ram is negligible, but in embedded stuff, a 512M memory footprint makes Solaris a no-go. I'm also not sure that this is an area where Solaris /can/ shine since all the observability tools that make SA's grin aren't worth a hill of proverbial beans when they're locked up inside a wireless router > > If anyone is interested, in pursuing alternate hardware platform > ports, you would probably be well educated, by having a talk with Tom > Riddle, who's team did the PPC port, which to date is the only > cross-compiled build of OpenSolaris. (It is built exclusively with GCC > on x86). > > Cheers, > Brian > >> >> Cheers, >> Brian >> >> >>> This message posted from opensolaris.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> - Brian Gupta >> >> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nycosug/ >> > > > > -- > - Brian Gupta > > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nycosug/ > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
