On Dec 24, 2007 11:23 PM, David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2007 6:44 PM, David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> (truth time: I'm going to be *so* happy when there's a decent ZFS > >> implementation in Linux and I can ditch this archaic pile of kludges.) > >> > > > > solaris is much more than ZFS and the tools are far from archaic > > > > I was a Solaris admin before I ever ran a Linux system, but that was > long enough ago I've lost a lot of what I knew then. And what Solaris > does now isn't I'm pretty sure what SunOS did back when I knew it (just > pre-Solaris if I'm remembering this right). And what I *really* am is > a software engineer, so admin stuff was keeping a server working for a > development group or such, not my primary role. > > What happens to me every time I turn around on Solaris these days is > that tools I'm used to using are missing key features that I use every > day. Tar is missing the 'z' option, date is missing all sorts of > options (can't do conversions on dates specified on the command line),
While the Solaris tar program may be missing it, GNU tar is not, and it is included with Solaris 10: /usr/sfw/bin/gtar. If you wanted to use Solaris tar, you can always use gunzip in combination with tar, etc. The -z option is just a convenience feature. As for the date program, I don't use the functionality you're talking about, so I can't comment on that. > touch is missing options I think. And ps has just totally different > options, in a different syntax (to get roughly the listing I want every > time, I need to type "ps -ef" instead of "ps ax" I think). And when I Different operating systems have different software with different syntax. This should not be surprising. > try to find anything in the documentation, I mostly can't (or they > describe three ways of doing things but don't explain why one would > choose one over another). And of course there's far, far less > information on the web that I can find to help me out when I have these > problems. Almost all of the "problems" you're talking about have quite a wealth of information "online." > For me, I'd be *immensely* better off running Linux with a good ZFS > port, if one existed. I probably also wouldn't have had to wait over a > year to get all 6 motherboard SATA ports supported, and I *still* > haven't dared try again to see if the hot-swap I paid so much for is now > actually supported. GNU/Linux users went through the same pain with certain hardware. Sometimes Solaris has the upper hand. For example, Solaris Express worked on my Intel Core 2 Duo system long before Ubuntu ever did. Likewise, Windows may have support for certain hardware before Solaris or GNU/Linux systems. If you want to see better hardware support; it is only fair you be a customer of Sun, ask your hardware manufacturer to support Solaris, or contribute to the efforts to making the support a reality. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
