Xwork is a generic command pattern implementation with no web dependencies at all, either Servlet/JSP or Velocity.
> -----Original Message----- > From: remigijus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > Ok I'm fine, I only said my opinion, and it's strong. If > evryone is happy with that and sees no preblem here then I'm > not going to complain. Then we are comming back why did you > split ww2 and xwork? Sounds like this was interesting job, > and that is not so intesting, so will we leave it as it is. > I'm happy, I now know a little bit more then befor. And at > last not evry complain have to be accepted. Maybe it's right position. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew McAuliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:47 PM > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > Unfortunately, that's like saying if I don't like > commons-logging, I > > shouldn't be forced to use it. Or if I don't like ognl, I > shouldn't be > > forced to use it. You can't make every dependency in the library > pluggable. > > The only reason I could see velocity becoming a barrier to > your work > > with webwork would be if the dependency forced you to write > velocity > > templates. It does not. If you never want to touch a > velocity template > > ever with webwork, you don't have to. But you need the jar file > > because it is used behind the scenes for some work. If you're not > > being forced to use > velocity > > templates, then webwork shouldn't be forced to remove the > dependency > > on something it uses for its internals just because you > don't happen > > to like it. > > > > It sounds to me like you're confused about what the velocity > > dependency means. It doesn't mean you don't have a choice in > > presentation methods, because you do (Freemarker, JSP, > velocity). If > > you want to use the ui > tags, > > then you may want to know about velocity to understand the > templates > > or provide your own. If you don't want to use them, then > fine, don't, > > and you'll never be forced to even look at a velocity template. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of > > remigijus > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:02 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tracy Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2003, at 1:22 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: > > > > > > > WW1 you can use without velocity, WW2 uses velocity for > its UI tag > > > > templates. If you don't plan to use the UI tags, you can remove > > > > it. > > > > > > You can use WW2 and just use JSPs and never have to write any > > > Velocity templates. However, Velocity is still there > lurking in the > > > dark helping you out. > > > > > > > > > > Ok I'm happy to get velocity in help when I need it, but I > don't want > > to > be > > forced to do that. You can say siple don't use it. Ok I > already doing > that. > > But we are tolking about ww2 design issues. It has to be > clear and if > > it's addition, evryone should now that is not ww2 but just another > > additional feature. And as I see some people also rising some > > questions about use of freemaker instead of velocity. I > think I'm not > > only one person who think > in > > this way. > > > > Forget about what is already, done, think again is it > better to have > > it as option or let's say in the core of ww. Try to be objective, > > don't be > inertic > > (inertia - I don't know how to write it in english in > correct way, I > > hope you eill undertand). > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does > > > SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you > > > create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click > > > Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does > > SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help > you create > > better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! 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