Xwork has NO dependencies on velocity! None! Zero! Webwork is a web-centric presentation layer that offers several presentation methods, including JSP, velocity, and freemarker. It happens to use velocity behind the scenes. That has nothing to do with the relationship between webwork and xwork! Nothing!
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of remigijus Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to Ok I'm fine, I only said my opinion, and it's strong. If evryone is happy with that and sees no preblem here then I'm not going to complain. Then we are comming back why did you split ww2 and xwork? Sounds like this was interesting job, and that is not so intesting, so will we leave it as it is. I'm happy, I now know a little bit more then befor. And at last not evry complain have to be accepted. Maybe it's right position. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew McAuliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > Unfortunately, that's like saying if I don't like commons-logging, I > shouldn't be forced to use it. Or if I don't like ognl, I shouldn't be > forced to use it. You can't make every dependency in the library pluggable. > The only reason I could see velocity becoming a barrier to your work > with webwork would be if the dependency forced you to write velocity templates. > It does not. If you never want to touch a velocity template ever with > webwork, you don't have to. But you need the jar file because it is > used behind the scenes for some work. If you're not being forced to > use velocity > templates, then webwork shouldn't be forced to remove the dependency > on something it uses for its internals just because you don't happen > to like it. > > It sounds to me like you're confused about what the velocity > dependency means. It doesn't mean you don't have a choice in > presentation methods, because you do (Freemarker, JSP, velocity). If > you want to use the ui tags, > then you may want to know about velocity to understand the templates > or provide your own. If you don't want to use them, then fine, don't, > and you'll never be forced to even look at a velocity template. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > remigijus > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracy Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2003, at 1:22 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: > > > > > WW1 you can use without velocity, WW2 uses velocity for its UI tag > > > templates. If you don't plan to use the UI tags, you can remove it. > > > > You can use WW2 and just use JSPs and never have to write any > > Velocity templates. However, Velocity is still there lurking in the > > dark helping you out. > > > > > > Ok I'm happy to get velocity in help when I need it, but I don't want > to be > forced to do that. You can say siple don't use it. Ok I already doing that. > But we are tolking about ww2 design issues. It has to be clear and if > it's addition, evryone should now that is not ww2 but just another > additional feature. And as I see some people also rising some > questions about use of freemaker instead of velocity. I think I'm not > only one person who think in > this way. > > Forget about what is already, done, think again is it better to have > it as option or let's say in the core of ww. Try to be objective, > don't be inertic > (inertia - I don't know how to write it in english in correct way, I > hope you eill undertand). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you > > create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click > > Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you > create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! 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