yeah you are right funding OSFlash.org is crazy. On Thursday 19 October 2006 6:12 pm, Evert|Rooftop wrote: > ehm.. > > did you ever look up what open source is? Open source can't be taken > over by whatever entity.. when something is open source, there's no way > back.. > > I really don't understand why people feel threatened by a second > initiative that kind of touches the flash open source space.. > > One of the big benefits osflash (and the projects on there) has offered > is choice.. The more choice, the better.. > Perhaps someone can explain how another project could possibly be a > problem? I'm glad to see the regulars take it easy on this one.. > > You made the choice to at least party depend on corporation for your web > application problems. This corporation just happens to invest in the > community a lot and allows people to build alternative applications and > even embraces it.. Now this corporation set up a platform to allow > people to share free software that could potentially take over the > market of their own products (FDS vs. red5 for example).. and now your > angry they chose to build a website to allow people to easily create > these projects? > > "What about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow > there. " > > .. oh boy > > stop the crazyness please! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Till, > > > > "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" is not necessarily pointed at Adobe. Take > > it as a generic term for ..., ..., ..., ..., fill in the blank. > > > > I never stated they were trying to take over the open source landscape. > > You did. > > > > Ben Forta Adobe what? did you put the words Adobe in there? I don't see > > that on the website. > > > > Tin hat? Hey everyone look at the crazy who asks questions! > > > > Hey the USS Liberty must have been attacked by Egypt how dare I think it > > was Israel. > > > > Sorry for questioning what looks fishy. I should have taken my place in > > line. I will only speak when spoken to. Point taken Till. I see there are > > several people out there that want to jump on me for questioning motives. > > > > Nothing strange here folks just keep on moving along. > > > > Hey I have an idea. Adobe support an already thriving community with > > support. Take a bit of a helpers roll. (I am not talking about a couple > > of guys posting projects from Adobe and answering a few questions). What > > about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow there. > > Why RIAForge. OSFlash is already doing a great job. I am sure that there > > is going to be some that say this is just for the best. Well than OK. > > > > I now see why Richard Stallman gets so upset. > > > > On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:10 pm, Till Schneidereit wrote: > >> Chris, > >> > >> I think you should either just let it go, or post some proof for your > >> allegations. Or at least point out what lets you believe in some sort of > >> conspiracy. And you'd have to do better than pointing out that the > >> domain is owned by Adobe, because there wasn't ever any doubt about > >> Adobe being involved in setting up RIAForge - hell, they even state > >> right there on the "About" page that it was devised by (Adobe's) Ben > >> Forta.[1] Concluding, I want to emphasize that I don't want to say that > >> it's impossible that there's a "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" devising > >> devilish plans to take over the Flash open source landscape. I'm just > >> saying that there really aren't any substantive signs for that being the > >> case. Anyway, maybe you should keep your tinfoil hat on to prevent our > >> new overlords from controlling you ;) > >> > >> cheers, > >> till > >> > >> > >> [1]: http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.about > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> I have nothing against Adobe I actually think they have some really > >>> cool software and they have started some great stuff. Just a little > >>> strange that Ray would have to use their Domain created just recently. > >>> It is not like Ray was in the corner and Adobe had to bail him out with > >>> the only domain available. > >>> > >>> If Adobe wants to start an Open Source thing up then say so. Don't hide > >>> in the bushes and let Ray take any falls that are coming. > >>> > >>> I am sick of big corporate crap. I absolutely hate it. This just stinks > >>> of some corporate board room meeting whose topic was "Dealing with the > >>> Open Source Threat". > >>> > >>> People can say anything they want about it but I just can't stand the > >>> garbage games. > >>> > >>> If people want to say lets just find ways to work together with them. > >>> Well it is not a matter of working together with them. They need to > >>> work together with us. What is more agreeable than an Open Source > >>> Project. No one is ever saying we won't work with you. It is the "BIG > >>> COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" that wants to be fed. > >>> > >>> I run a business that has developed both closed and open source > >>> software. I know what it is like while debating to launch your > >>> software, what is the best license to use. Just stop it with the > >>> Microsoft/SCO secret agent games. I suppose it will never stop as long > >>> as money is involved. > >>> > >>> > >>> Last thing... Good job to all you Open Source programmers. Without you > >>> we would be in a really bad computing state. I love Linux and Open > >>> Source and am very greatfull for the way it has opened my eyes to > >>> corporate evil. > >>> > >>> HEY THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY! > >>> > >>> Chris Cherrett > >>> > >>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:35 am, Peter Elst wrote: > >>>> Its on the about page of RIAForge.com: > >>>> > >>>> <quote> RIAForge was the brainchild of Ben Forta. The principal > >>>> developer for the project is Raymond Camden > >>>> <http://ray.camdenfamily.com></quote> > >>>> > >>>> Domain name ownership has been brought up before, so what we owns the > >>>> domain or runs the thing -- Adobe takes an open source initiative and > >>>> all of a sudden its some conspiracy or an attempt to assassinate a > >>>> community? > >>>> > >>>> Let's just find ways to work together. > >>>> > >>>> - Peter > >>>> > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>>> by the way ray is suppose to be the guy who started riaforge. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>>>> Hey check out: > >>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> then: > >>>>>> http://www.riaforge.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One looks like a quick install of a template and the other looks > >>>>>> like a design team worked on it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Too funny! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>>>>> Whois is great! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And the verdict is Adobe! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I was not really following the thread but if someone already found > >>>>>>> this then sorry....... > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> osflash mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> osflash mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
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