Sorry, I will eloborate.. adobe funding osflash would be great gift, but thinking osflash has the right to get money.. thats a different story
Evert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > yeah you are right funding OSFlash.org is crazy. > > On Thursday 19 October 2006 6:12 pm, Evert|Rooftop wrote: > >> ehm.. >> >> did you ever look up what open source is? Open source can't be taken >> over by whatever entity.. when something is open source, there's no way >> back.. >> >> I really don't understand why people feel threatened by a second >> initiative that kind of touches the flash open source space.. >> >> One of the big benefits osflash (and the projects on there) has offered >> is choice.. The more choice, the better.. >> Perhaps someone can explain how another project could possibly be a >> problem? I'm glad to see the regulars take it easy on this one.. >> >> You made the choice to at least party depend on corporation for your web >> application problems. This corporation just happens to invest in the >> community a lot and allows people to build alternative applications and >> even embraces it.. Now this corporation set up a platform to allow >> people to share free software that could potentially take over the >> market of their own products (FDS vs. red5 for example).. and now your >> angry they chose to build a website to allow people to easily create >> these projects? >> >> "What about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow >> there. " >> >> .. oh boy >> >> stop the crazyness please! >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Till, >>> >>> "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" is not necessarily pointed at Adobe. Take >>> it as a generic term for ..., ..., ..., ..., fill in the blank. >>> >>> I never stated they were trying to take over the open source landscape. >>> You did. >>> >>> Ben Forta Adobe what? did you put the words Adobe in there? I don't see >>> that on the website. >>> >>> Tin hat? Hey everyone look at the crazy who asks questions! >>> >>> Hey the USS Liberty must have been attacked by Egypt how dare I think it >>> was Israel. >>> >>> Sorry for questioning what looks fishy. I should have taken my place in >>> line. I will only speak when spoken to. Point taken Till. I see there are >>> several people out there that want to jump on me for questioning motives. >>> >>> Nothing strange here folks just keep on moving along. >>> >>> Hey I have an idea. Adobe support an already thriving community with >>> support. Take a bit of a helpers roll. (I am not talking about a couple >>> of guys posting projects from Adobe and answering a few questions). What >>> about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow there. >>> Why RIAForge. OSFlash is already doing a great job. I am sure that there >>> is going to be some that say this is just for the best. Well than OK. >>> >>> I now see why Richard Stallman gets so upset. >>> >>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:10 pm, Till Schneidereit wrote: >>> >>>> Chris, >>>> >>>> I think you should either just let it go, or post some proof for your >>>> allegations. Or at least point out what lets you believe in some sort of >>>> conspiracy. And you'd have to do better than pointing out that the >>>> domain is owned by Adobe, because there wasn't ever any doubt about >>>> Adobe being involved in setting up RIAForge - hell, they even state >>>> right there on the "About" page that it was devised by (Adobe's) Ben >>>> Forta.[1] Concluding, I want to emphasize that I don't want to say that >>>> it's impossible that there's a "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" devising >>>> devilish plans to take over the Flash open source landscape. I'm just >>>> saying that there really aren't any substantive signs for that being the >>>> case. Anyway, maybe you should keep your tinfoil hat on to prevent our >>>> new overlords from controlling you ;) >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> till >>>> >>>> >>>> [1]: http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.about >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have nothing against Adobe I actually think they have some really >>>>> cool software and they have started some great stuff. Just a little >>>>> strange that Ray would have to use their Domain created just recently. >>>>> It is not like Ray was in the corner and Adobe had to bail him out with >>>>> the only domain available. >>>>> >>>>> If Adobe wants to start an Open Source thing up then say so. Don't hide >>>>> in the bushes and let Ray take any falls that are coming. >>>>> >>>>> I am sick of big corporate crap. I absolutely hate it. This just stinks >>>>> of some corporate board room meeting whose topic was "Dealing with the >>>>> Open Source Threat". >>>>> >>>>> People can say anything they want about it but I just can't stand the >>>>> garbage games. >>>>> >>>>> If people want to say lets just find ways to work together with them. >>>>> Well it is not a matter of working together with them. They need to >>>>> work together with us. What is more agreeable than an Open Source >>>>> Project. No one is ever saying we won't work with you. It is the "BIG >>>>> COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" that wants to be fed. >>>>> >>>>> I run a business that has developed both closed and open source >>>>> software. I know what it is like while debating to launch your >>>>> software, what is the best license to use. Just stop it with the >>>>> Microsoft/SCO secret agent games. I suppose it will never stop as long >>>>> as money is involved. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last thing... Good job to all you Open Source programmers. Without you >>>>> we would be in a really bad computing state. I love Linux and Open >>>>> Source and am very greatfull for the way it has opened my eyes to >>>>> corporate evil. >>>>> >>>>> HEY THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY! >>>>> >>>>> Chris Cherrett >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:35 am, Peter Elst wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Its on the about page of RIAForge.com: >>>>>> >>>>>> <quote> RIAForge was the brainchild of Ben Forta. The principal >>>>>> developer for the project is Raymond Camden >>>>>> <http://ray.camdenfamily.com></quote> >>>>>> >>>>>> Domain name ownership has been brought up before, so what we owns the >>>>>> domain or runs the thing -- Adobe takes an open source initiative and >>>>>> all of a sudden its some conspiracy or an attempt to assassinate a >>>>>> community? >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's just find ways to work together. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> by the way ray is suppose to be the guy who started riaforge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey check out: >>>>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then: >>>>>>>> http://www.riaforge.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One looks like a quick install of a template and the other looks >>>>>>>> like a design team worked on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Too funny! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Whois is great! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And the verdict is Adobe! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was not really following the thread but if someone already found >>>>>>>>> this then sorry....... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> osflash mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> osflash mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> osflash mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
