Besides,

What are you contributing in the open source space, chris?

Just been checking out your website: http://trackingsolutions.ca
Have you made your donation to osflash or one of the projects you might 
be using yet?

Evert

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Till,
>
> "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" is not necessarily pointed at Adobe. Take it 
> as a generic term for ..., ..., ..., ..., fill in the blank.
>
> I never stated they were trying to take over the open source landscape. You 
> did.
>
> Ben Forta Adobe what? did you put the words Adobe in there? I don't see that 
> on the website.
>
> Tin hat? Hey everyone look at the crazy who asks questions!
>
> Hey the USS Liberty must have been attacked by Egypt how dare I think it was 
> Israel.
>
> Sorry for questioning what looks fishy. I should have taken my place in line. 
> I will only speak when spoken to. Point taken Till. I see there are several 
> people out there that want to jump on me for questioning motives.
>
> Nothing strange here folks just keep on moving along.
>
> Hey I have an idea. Adobe support an already thriving community with support. 
> Take a bit of a helpers roll. (I am not talking about a couple of guys 
> posting projects from Adobe and answering a few questions). What about 
> throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow there. Why 
> RIAForge. OSFlash is already doing a great job. I am sure that there is going 
> to be some that say this is just for the best. Well than OK.
>
> I now see why Richard Stallman gets so upset.
>
> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:10 pm, Till Schneidereit wrote:
>   
>> Chris,
>>
>> I think you should either just let it go, or post some proof for your
>> allegations. Or at least point out what lets you believe in some sort of
>> conspiracy. And you'd have to do better than pointing out that the domain
>> is owned by Adobe, because there wasn't ever any doubt about Adobe being
>> involved in setting up RIAForge - hell, they even state right there on the
>> "About" page that it was devised by (Adobe's) Ben Forta.[1] Concluding, I
>> want to emphasize that I don't want to say that it's impossible that
>> there's a "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" devising devilish plans to take
>> over the Flash open source landscape. I'm just saying that there really
>> aren't any substantive signs for that being the case. Anyway, maybe you
>> should keep your tinfoil hat on to prevent our new overlords from
>> controlling you ;)
>>
>> cheers,
>> till
>>
>>
>> [1]: http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.about
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>     
>>> I have nothing against Adobe I actually think they have some really cool
>>> software and they have started some great stuff. Just a little strange
>>> that Ray would have to use their Domain created just recently. It is not
>>> like Ray was in the corner and Adobe had to bail him out with the only
>>> domain available.
>>>
>>> If Adobe wants to start an Open Source thing up then say so. Don't hide
>>> in the bushes and let Ray take any falls that are coming.
>>>
>>> I am sick of big corporate crap. I absolutely hate it. This just stinks
>>> of some corporate board room meeting whose topic was "Dealing with the
>>> Open Source Threat".
>>>
>>> People can say anything they want about it but I just can't stand the
>>> garbage games.
>>>
>>> If people want to say lets just find ways to work together with them.
>>> Well it is not a matter of working together with them. They need to work
>>> together with us. What is more agreeable than an Open Source Project. No
>>> one is ever saying we won't work with you. It is the "BIG COOPERATE
>>> GARBAGE MACHINE" that wants to be fed.
>>>
>>> I run a business that has developed both closed and open source software.
>>> I know what it is like while debating to launch your software, what is
>>> the best license to use. Just stop it with the Microsoft/SCO secret agent
>>> games. I suppose it will never stop as long as money is involved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Last thing... Good job to all you Open Source programmers. Without you we
>>> would be in a really bad computing state. I love Linux and Open Source
>>> and am very greatfull for the way it has opened my eyes to corporate
>>> evil.
>>>
>>> HEY THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY!
>>>
>>> Chris Cherrett
>>>
>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:35 am, Peter Elst wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Its on the about page of RIAForge.com:
>>>>
>>>> <quote> RIAForge was the brainchild of Ben Forta. The principal
>>>> developer for the project is Raymond Camden
>>>> <http://ray.camdenfamily.com></quote>
>>>>
>>>> Domain name ownership has been brought up before, so what we owns the
>>>> domain or runs the thing -- Adobe takes an open source initiative and
>>>> all of a sudden its some conspiracy or an attempt to assassinate a
>>>> community?
>>>>
>>>> Let's just find ways to work together.
>>>>
>>>> - Peter
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> by the way ray is suppose to be the guy who started riaforge.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hey check out:
>>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then:
>>>>>> http://www.riaforge.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One looks like a quick install of a template and the other looks like
>>>>>> a design team worked on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too funny!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Whois is great!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the verdict is Adobe!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was not really following the thread but if someone already found
>>>>>>> this then sorry.......
>>>>>>>               
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