Allright I take your word for it, and thats really good stuff..

My contribution to osflash and open source in general is code, 
information.. so mostly effort, not money. If I would donate it would 
probably be to ffmpeg, red5, memcached, php, debian or other projects I 
use on a daily basis.. I am just a developer, and my budgets are 
limited.. Its definitely not big enough to win an argument..

Evert

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am working on porting a midi filter application running on Windows to 
> Linux. 
> At one point I put about 6 months into development of a distro of Linux that 
> we could never quite get off the ground due to the lead developer having some 
> family problems. I have poured lots of time into open source projects and 
> finances into open source. I believe the the sum of around $15,000. dollars 
> into paying open source developers to work on apps. I could get you exact 
> numbers.
>
> I have also dedicated my computing to Linux to the point where we tossed out 
> 2 
> years worth of coding in Microsoft ASP to provide our clients with open 
> source solutions. I have spread open source though many School Boards in 
> Alberta, Canada and continue to push to do so.  TSIware our product was then 
> converted to run on Tomcat and mysql. Do you realize what I lost doing so and 
> why? So that I could provide people with options. 
>
> What about you?
>
> You know I am going to talk to my wife about this but I think your challenge 
> is great. Lets donate to OSFlash. How much do you want to give. I don't have 
> as much money as Adobe so what do you want to match me for. Keep it modest.
>
> https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=paypal%40ariaware.com&item_name=OSFlash+Donation&no_shipping=1&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=GBP&lc=US
>
> On Thursday 19 October 2006 6:18 pm, Evert|Rooftop wrote:
>   
>> Besides,
>>
>> What are you contributing in the open source space, chris?
>>
>> Just been checking out your website: http://trackingsolutions.ca
>> Have you made your donation to osflash or one of the projects you might
>> be using yet?
>>
>> Evert
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>     
>>> Till,
>>>
>>> "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" is not necessarily pointed at Adobe. Take
>>> it as a generic term for ..., ..., ..., ..., fill in the blank.
>>>
>>> I never stated they were trying to take over the open source landscape.
>>> You did.
>>>
>>> Ben Forta Adobe what? did you put the words Adobe in there? I don't see
>>> that on the website.
>>>
>>> Tin hat? Hey everyone look at the crazy who asks questions!
>>>
>>> Hey the USS Liberty must have been attacked by Egypt how dare I think it
>>> was Israel.
>>>
>>> Sorry for questioning what looks fishy. I should have taken my place in
>>> line. I will only speak when spoken to. Point taken Till. I see there are
>>> several people out there that want to jump on me for questioning motives.
>>>
>>> Nothing strange here folks just keep on moving along.
>>>
>>> Hey I have an idea. Adobe support an already thriving community with
>>> support. Take a bit of a helpers roll. (I am not talking about a couple
>>> of guys posting projects from Adobe and answering a few questions). What
>>> about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things grow there.
>>> Why RIAForge. OSFlash is already doing a great job. I am sure that there
>>> is going to be some that say this is just for the best. Well than OK.
>>>
>>> I now see why Richard Stallman gets so upset.
>>>
>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:10 pm, Till Schneidereit wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I think you should either just let it go, or post some proof for your
>>>> allegations. Or at least point out what lets you believe in some sort of
>>>> conspiracy. And you'd have to do better than pointing out that the
>>>> domain is owned by Adobe, because there wasn't ever any doubt about
>>>> Adobe being involved in setting up RIAForge - hell, they even state
>>>> right there on the "About" page that it was devised by (Adobe's) Ben
>>>> Forta.[1] Concluding, I want to emphasize that I don't want to say that
>>>> it's impossible that there's a "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" devising
>>>> devilish plans to take over the Flash open source landscape. I'm just
>>>> saying that there really aren't any substantive signs for that being the
>>>> case. Anyway, maybe you should keep your tinfoil hat on to prevent our
>>>> new overlords from controlling you ;)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> till
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]: http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.about
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I have nothing against Adobe I actually think they have some really
>>>>> cool software and they have started some great stuff. Just a little
>>>>> strange that Ray would have to use their Domain created just recently.
>>>>> It is not like Ray was in the corner and Adobe had to bail him out with
>>>>> the only domain available.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Adobe wants to start an Open Source thing up then say so. Don't hide
>>>>> in the bushes and let Ray take any falls that are coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sick of big corporate crap. I absolutely hate it. This just stinks
>>>>> of some corporate board room meeting whose topic was "Dealing with the
>>>>> Open Source Threat".
>>>>>
>>>>> People can say anything they want about it but I just can't stand the
>>>>> garbage games.
>>>>>
>>>>> If people want to say lets just find ways to work together with them.
>>>>> Well it is not a matter of working together with them. They need to
>>>>> work together with us. What is more agreeable than an Open Source
>>>>> Project. No one is ever saying we won't work with you. It is the "BIG
>>>>> COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" that wants to be fed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I run a business that has developed both closed and open source
>>>>> software. I know what it is like while debating to launch your
>>>>> software, what is the best license to use. Just stop it with the
>>>>> Microsoft/SCO secret agent games. I suppose it will never stop as long
>>>>> as money is involved.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last thing... Good job to all you Open Source programmers. Without you
>>>>> we would be in a really bad computing state. I love Linux and Open
>>>>> Source and am very greatfull for the way it has opened my eyes to
>>>>> corporate evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> HEY THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Cherrett
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:35 am, Peter Elst wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Its on the about page of RIAForge.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote> RIAForge was the brainchild of Ben Forta. The principal
>>>>>> developer for the project is Raymond Camden
>>>>>> <http://ray.camdenfamily.com></quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Domain name ownership has been brought up before, so what we owns the
>>>>>> domain or runs the thing -- Adobe takes an open source initiative and
>>>>>> all of a sudden its some conspiracy or an attempt to assassinate a
>>>>>> community?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's just find ways to work together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> by the way ray is suppose to be the guy who started riaforge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Hey check out:
>>>>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> then:
>>>>>>>> http://www.riaforge.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One looks like a quick install of a template and the other looks
>>>>>>>> like a design team worked on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too funny!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>>                 
> wrote:
>   
>>>>>>>>> Whois is great!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the verdict is Adobe!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was not really following the thread but if someone already found
>>>>>>>>> this then sorry.......
>>>>>>>>>                   
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