Jeff I think you bring up some great questions. The things that I notice include - is this the right tool (process) for this time, this need, the objectives and desired outcomes for this stage / moment / project (could be, I’m just saying that is what I always ask myself as I talk with the client)
And Anne-Béatrice - the thing that I notice in something you said earlier is that you wish you had more preparation with them. - to open up why, for whom, to what end, context, where this fits into the other work of the organization / before and after, what will be done with / how will documentation be used in a useful way, what is invitation like, and so on. Was there the possibility of having a conversation with them about… if it’s so important, it’s important to have useful essential time for pre-work. I understand you / we might not always have this ability. But these are some of the times when I tend to say “no”. Because there’s not enough time to be thoughtful and clear about objectives and desired outcomes, selection of process, and all the other elements, And because if it is so so important, it’s worth it. Worth re-scheduling. And if it’s such a crisis mentality that there is panic if it does not happen at x date, then that indicates (as may other parts of an initial exploratory conversation) that other organizational work must be done before this particular task / reason / objective. Which weaves me back around to thinking about Jeff’s thinking about when to do what at what phases and moments in the continuum / dance / movements of organization development… Lisa On Jan 31, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > I didn't mean for a brand new group. That kind of narrowing at a first > meeting overlooks the creative potential of the gathered participants! Not > much fun. > > I am curious how broad or narrow was the theme question? Would you have > changed it, in hindsight? Anything else you would have changed if you could? > > Jeff > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Anne-Béatrice Duparc > Date:01/31/2015 4:39 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: Jeff Aitken ,World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title > > Hi Jeff, > > I like the way you put it into words. I think you are right, some people > won't stay very long there if that does not suit what they want and as you > say it, it was a good way to make things more visible. And people might > better see now what's true there. So that's good! :) > > I wish that I could have had some more preparation or follow up with them, so > that there could be a more inclusive way to form this new group and indeed > some reflexion about leadership. But that was not the deal... > > When you write : "It doesn't surprise me that there was desire to narrow and > focus the discourse rather than expand it at this developmental stage." Do > you mean by that that you view it as a normal general first step for a > forming group? > In my experience, the beginning is not an easy time for a group... because > people can be at very different places. Some of them know pretty clearly what > they want, how they want to go there or at least want to take action, while > some others want to cocreate it and can support more chaos and don't want to > act so quickly. > > Thanks for your insights, > Anne-Béatrice >
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