Ron, I disagree. We are not at different ends of the spectrum. I think we have different ways of expressing the same desire to keep occupation the central tenet of OT. However, I still think you are trying to "burn both ends of the candle" by not admitting in order to establish baseline occupational performance one must establish baseline "human" deficit. We are limited creatures, who depend on these bodies that are decaying (some more rapidly than others) to successfully engage in the things (occupations) that are meaningful to us. Your own case history reveals this. You do a great job of establishing in a snap shot where the deficits are: Martha: A Case Study
History: 90 y/o female s/p CVA (approximately 10 years) with mild residual affects Generalized weakness Decreased endurance Diffuse pattern of extremity pain HTTN Severe anxiety Evaluation: Decreased strength in bi-lateral LE Pain in right LE, secondary to "injury" while standing from toilet Decreased endurance Dependent for most ADL's. Requires mod - max assist with transfers Non-ambulatory Prior Level of Function: Previously ambulated with RW, short distances Transferred independently The only occupation mentioned (toileting)is in relation to pain. Your goals reflect occupational performance areas but your eval does not. Why? Neal C. Luther,OTR/L Rehab Program Coordinator Advanced Home Care 1-336-878-8824 xt 3205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Care is our Business...Caring is our Specialty -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:49 AM To: Neal Luther Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Hello Neal: I do not feel that I'm splitting hairs at all. What you and I are saying are at two ends of the spectrum. We are describing totally different theoretical approaches to treatment. Using IADL's to remediate balance is nothing unique to our profession. And, I think this type of approach leads some OT's to do pretty silly stuff like cones, shoulder arc, pegs, balloons, laundry, washing windows, etc. What I'm arguing is that OT's role should not be remediating underlying issues, other profession's do that. Instead, our primary role, and distinction is remediating occupational issues. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT ----- Original Message ----- From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com> Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL> Ron, NL> Your splitting hairs. NL> I put IADL/balance in the context of treating an ortho pt. (TKR). NL> Respectfully, NL> Neal C. Luther,OTR/L NL> Rehab Program Coordinator NL> Advanced Home Care NL> 1-336-878-8824 xt 3205 NL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] NL> Home Care is our Business...Caring is our Specialty NL> -----Original Message----- NL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On NL> Behalf Of Ron Carson NL> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:36 PM NL> To: Neal Luther NL> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice NL> Neal, it seems that we look at things differently: NL> You say: NL> "we do higher level IADL tasks ... usually to work on the NL> dynamics of balance" NL> I look at it this way: NL> I do higher level tasks so the patient can learn to do these NL> tasks independently <and> NL> I work on the dynamics of balance so the patient can do higher NL> level tasks NL> Also, for me, I know if interventions are successful if the patient NL> has improved occupational performance. Lastly, In my opinion, OT's NL> role is not PREPARING the patient for return to activity, it's NL> RETURNING them to activity. NL> Does any of this make sense or is it just "rubbish" <smile> NL> Ron NL> -- NL> Ron Carson MHS, OT NL> ----- Original Message ----- NL> From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NL> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 NL> To: OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com> NL> Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL>> Simple. If we don't know that our interventions are successful we NL> dare NL>> not make claims on occupational performance. It's akin to NL> performing NL>> PROM on someone in a coma (which can be a good thing) and when they NL> come NL>> out of the coma claiming our intervention as the reason they are NL> able NL>> feed themselves now. Another example would be in orthopedics. Why NL> do NL>> we do higher level IADL tasks. In my experience, it is usually to NL> work NL>> on the dynamics of balance (especially with TKR's). If I do not NL> know NL>> the effects of single leg stance on the joint and whether that pt. NL> Is NL>> ready (usually in consult with PT) then I can't plan occupational NL> tasks NL>> accordingly. And if this is not addressed then I have not done my NL> job to NL>> prepare that pt. For return to meaningful activity. NL>> Neal C. Luther,OTR/L NL>> Rehab Program Coordinator NL>> Advanced Home Care NL>> 1-336-878-8824 xt 3205 NL>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] NL>> Home Care is our Business...Caring is our Specialty NL>> The information contained in this electronic document from NL>> Advanced Home Care is privileged and confidential information NL>> intended for the sole use of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the reader of NL>> this communication is not the intended recipient, or the employee NL>> or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, NL>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or NL>> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have NL>> received this communication in error, please immediately notify NL>> the person listed above and discard the original.-----Original NL> Message----- NL>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On NL>> Behalf Of Ron Carson NL>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:13 PM NL>> To: Neal Luther NL>> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice NL>> Why? NL>> Ron NL>> -- NL>> Ron Carson MHS, OT NL>> ----- Original Message ----- NL>> From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NL>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 NL>> To: OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com> NL>> Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL>>> Also, I think we have to measure success at both levels --the NL>>> treated area and occupational performance. NL> -- NL> Options? NL> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com NL> Archive? NL> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
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