a)      Australia is much larger than the UK, and with much lower population 
density. So the sunk cost per person is much higher here

b)      Australian telcos have to pay overseas peers for data, because more 
data originates overseas than in Aus. Until that pricing scheme changes, there 
will never be true "unlimited" plans in Aus


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Liedig
Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 8:02 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet 
Filter

Pricing is out of control. I'm living in the UK at the moment and I pay £7.50 
($13) for 8 meg download, no cap. Prior to leaving I was paying $49 for half 
that speed and 50GB cap. Unbelievable that Aussies still have to pay so much 
more than the rest of the world.


On 12 July 2010 12:41, .net noobie 
<dotnetnoo...@gmail.com<mailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
"Or building an NBN"

I was under the impression that we were building the 40+ billion NBN to have 
"TWO" networks to increase/create competition

anyway now we have the government (Conroy) stick the boots into Telstra, make 
them break up, and if they don't do it the way Conroy want's they will just 
take (at a very low unfair price) the parts they need to make the new NBN

Conroy is now telling us that this is going to save us lots of money, but.... 
now we will have a single network as before, just the government will own it, 
not Telstra

In Tasmania the network prices are out, you can buy a 25 MB/Sec connection for 
$99 a month or you can have ADSL2+ 24 MB/sec for maybe $29 a month or $50 for 
more bandwidth than most heavy use families will chew in a month

But the thing that gets me more then the pricing, is the Fact that now we are 
still only going to have 1 major network, just like before, but not privately 
owned, but owned by the Government, the justification of the 40 billion plus 
NBN (after they failed to raise 5 billion from the private sector, then 5 days 
later announced the 40 plus billion plan) was to have 2 networks for 
competition in the market place, to give the little guys in the game a better 
chance to get a good deal, but this reason/jusification for kicking Telstra's 
teeth in seems to have gone by the wayside, but no one in the media seems to 
remember/mention it.




On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM, David Connors 
<da...@codify.com<mailto:da...@codify.com>> wrote:
On 12 July 2010 17:28, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
But saying "don't buy from the Chinese" is just self-defeating. Then the 
Chinese shouldn't buy our coal. Or Americans shouldn't buy Dr Low's consulting 
services etc. No one will buy anything from anyone overseas. And why limit it 
to countries: people in NSW shouldn't buy things from Queensland, and 
Sydney-siders shouldn't buy things from Dubbo, and so on.

I think Greg was referring to the annoying spin on the stimulus spend.

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