It took me ages to build a framework for Angular. Now that I've built it I
can quickly create new apps based on the previous app, but I would hate to
be back at newbie stage tried to build it again. So many moving parts. At
least I can still integrate with existing code. Deployment is relatively
easy in my opinion.

I built my app from scratch, transitioned to javascript services and
webpack, and it is only months ago that visual studio got a decent angular
2 template built in. Even now it doesn't come with a security model built
in. I added forms authentication but that wasn't trivial. My boss asked me
to give him a document worth all the steps and it was 31 large steps.

So it's a struggle, but I have an app that looks awesome. Draggable tiles,
charts, grids, responsiveness, async loading, breadcrumbs, maps, etc

On 21 Nov 2017 5:50 PM, "Greg Low" <[email protected]> wrote:

> But when a business just wants a line of business app, are these good
> answers now? Do they care if it could be used by billions of people? The
> odd one might care. Most won’t.
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> Won’t they be more concerned with taking 6 or 8 times longer, and costing
> proportionately more?
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> Not every app is at the high-end. Most aren’t.
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> And now I watch daily nightmares around deploying web apps too.
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> What exactly have we done to ourselves?
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> Regards,
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> Greg
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@
> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 November 2017 4:46 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Creating a browser-based product
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> I'm not sure this is much more of an issue now than it was. Back in the
> day we had to decide between Delphi, VB, Powerbuilder, C++ among others
> when building a Windows app. And once we decided that we had to work out
> which third party libraries we wanted to use with them.
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> If I take an old 15 year old Delphi app I have it would take me the best
> part of a week to get it compiling again now if I had to build the dev
> machine from scratch.
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> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Greg Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So then we’re back to why business apps take so very long to build
> nowadays, and why no-one can seem to decide which tools to use. Either way,
> as an industry, our productivity when building apps is poor.
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