Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar

[brendamanning]

When women tell me they were C/Sd for FTP I always explain this to them as "your baby just couldn't come out because...............??? I am looking for further information from them or imparting what I know of the situation which led to their surgery. I do NOT say: "you didn't dilate" ie it's your fault that your Cx 'failed' to open, or the baby to descend etc. Apportioning blame is not a productive exercise here.   FTP is a 'blanket term' for heaps of things as Janet says. It would be much more helpful to the women in understanding what's happened to them if we isolated the problem & specified it rather than put it all under 1 heading which by its very wording assumes the mother is somehow at fault !   With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar There's a thread on JB called "FTP? FTW?" which has research on it and how FTP is, oddly enough ; ) not something normally recognised or "diagnosed" in midwifery. FTP is one of the main reasons in Australia for c-sec, the other two reasons being breech and previous surgery. Shocking. J ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar I’d love to use all three but I will stick with the one that women know well – most of the birth stories in our forum have that in it, unfortunately   Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybellycom.au/birth-support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 1:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar   It's really "failure to wait" and "failure to stop poking about"... ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar   Oh yes we are having a big discussion about the wording after that post, and I told everyone I am going to write an article:   “Failure to Progress: Why Doctors Need to Move On”   LOL!!!! I will too ;) Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybellycom.au/birth-support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar   What a bloody crock. Yes, that's a common protocol to wave at birthing women who'd be doing just fine with a bit of evidence based care. I've heard limits of 38 weeks (yes, really!) through to 41 weeks on the time a woman with previous surgery is told she's "allowed" to gestate before being forcibly sliced open. It depends on the hospital and whether or not she employs a private surgeon. Tell her to run for the hills if she wants to be safe. And don't get me started on the intrinsically offensive nature of that term... TOS - trial of service is what it really means! J <- whose sister is currently labouring for her HBAC at 42+4 without ANY crap like that! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar   Just wondering what guidelines exist for trial of scar a woman on my site said that she has been given until 41 weeks to give birth or she’ll be having another caesarean. Is this right? I am sure I have heard otherwise and seen otherwise Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support