I prefer the term obstructed labour. Then one needs to properly describe what the obstruction was, i.e. POP and not descending despite best effors at positioning, etc. Or obstructed by medical ignorance of the natural process! Cheers Judy
--- brendamanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When women tell me they were C/Sd for FTP I always explain > this to them as "your baby just couldn't come out > because...............??? I am looking for further information > from them or imparting what I know of the situation which led > to their surgery. > I do NOT say: "you didn't dilate" ie it's your fault that your > Cx 'failed' to open, or the baby to descend etc. Apportioning > blame is not a productive exercise here. > > FTP is a 'blanket term' for heaps of things as Janet says. > It would be much more helpful to the women in understanding > what's happened to them if we isolated the problem & specified > it rather than put it all under 1 heading which by its very > wording assumes the mother is somehow at fault ! > > With kind regards > Brenda Manning > www.themidwife.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janet Fraser > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > There's a thread on JB called "FTP? FTW?" which has research > on it and how FTP is, oddly enough ; ) not something normally > recognised or "diagnosed" in midwifery. FTP is one of the main > reasons in Australia for c-sec, the other two reasons being > breech and previous surgery. Shocking. > J > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kelly @ BellyBelly > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:35 PM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > I'd love to use all three but I will stick with the one > that women know well - most of the birth stories in our forum > have that in it, unfortunately. > > > > Best Regards, > > Kelly Zantey > Creator, BellyBelly.com.au > Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood > BellyBelly Birth Support - > http://www.bellybellycom.au/birth-support > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Janet Fraser > Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 1:18 PM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > > It's really "failure to wait" and "failure to stop poking > about"... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kelly @ BellyBelly > > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:19 PM > > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > > Oh yes we are having a big discussion about the wording > after that post, and I told everyone I am going to write an > article: > > > > "Failure to Progress: Why Doctors Need to Move On" > > > > LOL!!!! I will too ;) > > Best Regards, > > Kelly Zantey > Creator, BellyBelly.com.au > Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood > BellyBelly Birth Support - > http://www.bellybellycom.au/birth-support > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Janet Fraser > Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:16 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > > What a bloody crock. Yes, that's a common protocol to > wave at birthing women who'd be doing just fine with a bit of > evidence based care. I've heard limits of 38 weeks (yes, > really!) through to 41 weeks on the time a woman with previous > surgery is told she's "allowed" to gestate before being > forcibly sliced open. It depends on the hospital and whether > or not she employs a private surgeon. > > Tell her to run for the hills if she wants to be safe. > And don't get me started on the intrinsically offensive nature > of that term... TOS - trial of service is what it really > means! > > J <- whose sister is currently labouring for her HBAC at > 42+4 without ANY crap like that! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kelly @ BellyBelly > > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:25 AM > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar > > > > Just wondering what guidelines exist for trial of > scar. a woman on my site said that she has been given until 41 > weeks to give birth or she'll be having another caesarean. Is > this right? I am sure I have heard otherwise and seen > otherwise. > > Best Regards, > > Kelly Zantey > Creator, BellyBelly.com.au > Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood > BellyBelly Birth Support - > http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support > > > ____________________________________________________ On Yahoo!7 Dating: It's free to join and check out our great singles! http://www.yahoo7.com.au/personals -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
