Hi, We might call this Enterprise Perl Advocacy. If anyone wants to organize this, let us all know.
We can also build tools for it using P5EEx::Blue. ;-) Stephen At 06:58 AM 7/31/2002 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >One point that perhaps was touched upon but not covered well is that >usefulness of not only documentaiton but success stories in "Enterprise >Perl". The other point was the lack of marketing capability that Perl has >as well. > >To further this, I am not sure if this would be useful but.... > >What might be nice (but perhaps too overreaching) is an area of P5EE where >people can submit success stories and that they be categorized in P5EE >categories and a few other search fields in case someone wants to show >their organization who not only successfully used Perl, but also >successfully used it in the context they need it (eg web services, web app >architecture, caching, template, etc) > >For example: > >Title: Banking Portal >P5EE Categories: Web Services, Web Application Framework, Persistent Perl >Engine, Templates, Middleware > >Details: > >Web Service Implementation: SOAP::Lite 5.0 >Web Application Framework: SmartWorker 3.0 >Persistent Perl Engine: mod_perl 2.0 >Template System: Template Toolkit 10.0 >Middleware: POE 20.0, CORBA > >Abstract: > >SmartWorker has succcessfully deployed Banking Portal for ZitiBank.com >using Perl's "Enterprise" tools satisfying 20 gazillion hits a day and >being developed in a record 1 week's time! An open web services >architecture allows other banks to integrate seamlessly to the portal and >has propelled Zitibank to the forefront of banking compared to the other >poor sap's using Microsoft in their portals. > >Details: > >fdfsdf > >--- > >To some degree, this goes beyond a P5EE initiative and is perhaps something >that could be extended as a general advocacy initiative, but have a >searchable database of advocacy stories would be nice as well as one place >to go for those stories. People like Perrin have done a huge service by >writing up their success story of eToys or Ask about his ValueClick days. > >But these seem to me, to be "prose" and you have to kind of search around >for the story. So Perl.com publishes these things as formal >'articles'. And mod_perl has some success stories. But these things are >distributed a bit. > >It would be nicer if mod_perl stories could point to something like >p5ee.org (or perladvocacy.org) /cgi-bin/search_success?category=mod_perl > >And SOAP::Lite success stories could be a link to the same database like > >/cgi-bin/search_success?category=web_services&subcategory=soap_lite > >etc... > >The idea being that one place becomes known for being the place for people >to dump and search success stories. Perhaps a CPAN extension would also be >conceivable. If the stories are submitted to CPAN in an XML structure >defining the search fields then maybe a CPAN search could also search >success stories for example. > > > >At 01:24 AM 7/31/2002, Leon Brocard wrote: >>Well, we had a BOF at OSCON and thanks to everyone who came. I'm >>afraid I was a little tired by this time and may have been a little >>negative, but here are a couple of things discussed: >> >>Why do we want p5ee? To make more money and make it easier to get a >>job. >> >>What is the easier way to get p5ee? Spend millions on marketing. >> >>Where it is now? Nowhere. >> >>Where are IT decisions made? By CTOs on the golf course. >> >>Is J2EE any good? No, but it's a standard of sorts. >> >>etc. etc. >> >>to be honest we went around in circles, but an opinion is that perhaps >>we shouldn't rewrite huge codebases without an aim but instead give >>the P5EE stamp to high quality CPAN modules instead, eg DBI, >>Cache::Cache, .... (this is where we got stuck). >> >>Did I miss any other points? Any opinions? >> >>Leon >>-- >>Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ >>scribot.................................http://www.scribot.com/ >> >>.... "Careful. We don't want to learn from this." - Calvin > >__________________________________________________ >Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company >http://www.eXtropia.com/ >Office: (65) 64791172 Mobile: (65) 96218290 > >
