At 01:07 AM 3/27/02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton 
wrote the following:

>Group, at an email list I'm an admin for, we have another
>Netscape problem.  (First problem was their signature file
>not showing up below their text, it only would show at the
>extreme bottom of the thread below the footers).  Still
>haven't got that solved.  Now, NS is removing the header from
>the email one replies to.

In addition to Kelly Younger's answer, some additional comments...

Signatures belong at the bottom of a message after the "cutmarks" (normally
seen as two dashes). Hence, Netscape (and other standard programs) places
them in the correct position. The reason for this is to allow removal by
pseudo-anonymous remailers and also standard mail readers that require
deleting of "footer" (which includes signatures) information.

NS doesn't remove headers, in fact no e-mail program does. All e-mail
programs only "show" some or certain headers. To see the remaining headers
usually requires an extra menu step in the program. Eudora requires the
"blah blah blah" button (show all headers); Outlook Express requires
Right-click -- Properties -- Details, Pine requires "H" key (full header
display), etc.

The main problem with MS products is that they are always making their
products different from the way "standard" and pre-existing software works.
They are always trying to re-define standards which makes it extremely
difficult for those individuals that used products long before MS ever had
one available.

Except for the TV game Jeopardy, most people provide an answer after a
question is asked, not before. Hence, the standard practice of seeing a
message followed by the answer. Not the MS backwards method of the answer
followed by the question. USENET and e-mail both predate MS's entry into the
Internet where all the standards and methods of doing things were first laid
out. These pre-existing methods are the current standards and no matter how
much MS wants to change them, they cannot.


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Gerry Boyd
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