Hi Paul, I'm having a hard time with you saying that this image has a nice range of grayscale and good contrast. You must be seeing something on your screen that's very different than what's on my screen. Frank's rendition of the image has blown highlights (note, for example, the paper plate being held by the woman), minimal, and sometimes blocked shadow detail, and an overall dark tone. The Maple Leafs logo shows virtually no separation of tone between its background and the cap proper, and a couple of people in the background have all but disappeared into a deep murkiness. There are details on the little girl's jacket that are either lost or barely visible, the purse being carried by the woman on the far left side of the frame shows no shadow detail, a reflection in a window is obscured, the woman's dress in the upper right side of the image shows no detail, and so on. I see many, many problems with this image, as I usually do with many of Frank's pics. Perhaps it's because you're using a Mac, with a different screen gamma than a PC, that you see this as an image as you described.
I've discussed this with Frank several times, and have shown him other versions of some of his posted pics where the image tonality has been opened up, shadows and dark areas given some detail, highlights toned down to show detail rather than pure white. He's agreed that some of these alterations looked better than the posted pics and more like the original prints. My screen may not be perfectly calibrated, but it's pretty close, and considering the number of people who say that some of my images are too dark, the screen before me can't be so far off, and may in fact even be a scosh too bright, so on that basis, I should be seeing more than I am. Anyway, I played with this image a bit and sent the results to Frank, who felt it was superior to his posting. He may put it up, and it will be interesting to see how they compare for you (and others), and if the new rendition looks too bright or washed out. Considering the number of images put up here on the list, I cannot help but wonder if there might be a way to have all our monitors calibrated so they are closer to one another. Maybe that's too much to ask, however, considering this is a photography list, a list from which we learn from one another, share our vision, and explore things visually, might a "global" calibration be something to shoot for, and is it even possible to do? Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like this a lot. Excellent composition and framing. Nice range of grayscale, good contrast.